Roses forum: Sombrueil -I just don't get it...

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fisherwoman
Nov 28, 2018 3:31 PM CST
After reading a number of discussions all over the web I still can't figure out which is which, the explanations just add more confusion. HMF Colonial White seems to be both Madame and Sombreuil Climber. I want to order the large flat faced stuffed petal version of Sombreuil . It's a gamble; David Austin sells a tea climber listed as not having many petals. That can't be right can it ?
Name: Ken Wilkinson
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KenNEGA
Nov 28, 2018 4:46 PM CST
David Austin sells the version you want. Look under "climbers" on his web site. I just looked it up.
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.

fisherwoman
Nov 28, 2018 5:13 PM CST
Thanks Ken for taking time to look it up. If i can make room for only one white rose I think it will be Sombrueil or Bolero.
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jerijen
Nov 28, 2018 6:48 PM CST
It would have been so much less confusing if ARS had agreed to call the climber "Colonial White" ... that was the only name that ever ONLY belonged to that beautiful climber.

The Climbing rose is NOT a Tea Rose. It's a Hybrid of R. wichurana, with a wonderful "Green Apple" fragrance. Packed with petals, and lovely.
ARS calls it 'Sombreuil, Cl.':
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The 1858 Tea Rose, properly called 'Mlle. de Sombreuil' is NOT a climber, but a typical Tea Rose.
It is beautiful in its own right:
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Name: Bonnie
Texas
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RosesnTx
Nov 28, 2018 7:10 PM CST
I have climbing Sombreuil and it's one of my favorite roses. It is a vigorous growing climbing rose with vicious thorns but beautiful blooms and fragrance. I have had mine two years and can't wait for it to keep growing.
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I ordered mine from The Antique Rose Emporium. I also plan to plant Mlle de Sombreuil in the near future.

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fisherwoman
Nov 28, 2018 8:45 PM CST
Oh boy, it's just what I hoped for to get some encouragement and photos , Thanks Jeri and Bonnie. Hurray!
Name: Bonnie
Texas
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RosesnTx
Nov 29, 2018 6:38 AM CST
Always glad to enable, uh I mean encourage someone to buy new roses lol. I know you will love it! In its second year it really took off and grew super long canes but you have to put them where you want them quickly before they stiffen up or it will be harder to train them without breaking them. My goal is it to cover that end of my arbor one day and it's well on its way, I am expecting a lot more growth going into its third year. Let us know how yours does for you!

fisherwoman
Nov 29, 2018 8:38 PM CST
It would be a beautiful arbor rose. White roses light up the garden so elegantly. I have a small dead ginko tree to saw up for a rustic tripod.

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