Irises forum: Iris colors......?

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Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Irises Bulbs Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Plant and/or Seed Trader Dahlias
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TBMan
Dec 3, 2018 12:36 PM CST
My friends, I could use your help.
I've quite a number of seedlings under evaluation, and describing their colors accurately seems to elude me.
Being a guy with only a very basic understanding of tint, tone, hue, and shade is probably a good excuse too.
A RHS color chart is expensive and difficult to obtain. I prefer to NAME the hue, color, tint, etc., rather than "RHS 121b" for example. I can't use a interior decorator's color swatch with their ridiculous, fanciful hue descriptions. I just need a way to accurately describe color in a way that doesn't just say, --- violet, orange, pink, rose, blue.
Any suggestions, resources?
Thanks for your time
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a studio potter.
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janwax
Dec 3, 2018 12:42 PM CST
Do you mean a synonym for violet and others? Google's a big help. I just found mauve, periwinkle and amethyst for violet.

Couldn't agree more with avoiding decorators' fanciful names !!
let the mystery be
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a studio potter.
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Irises Region: California Organic Gardener Dahlias
Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower Birds Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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janwax
Dec 3, 2018 12:45 PM CST
Some bruises are violet-colored! Rolling on the floor laughing (not very poetic ! Hilarious! )
let the mystery be
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Irises Bulbs Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Plant and/or Seed Trader Dahlias
Garden Photography Salvias Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hybridizer Region: Oregon
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TBMan
Dec 3, 2018 1:05 PM CST
.... i did look up ,"violet" and found those descriptions, but they seemed to be distinct permutations of the color violet.
I guess what im looking for is a way to accurately nail down a color description that everyone can picture.
Lets take the color orange, for example. When is "orange" just "orange", what are the colors, "persimmon", valencia", "cantaloupe"
orange?
Pink is confusing to me as well.
What color is "rose", "porcelain", "venetian", "geranium", "baby ribbon"? Keith Keppel labels one of his pink selfs "safrano pink"
Just what the Jimmie Jack heck is "safrano pink"?
Yeah, im way confused!!!
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 3, 2018 1:24 PM CST
Timothy ~ I just looked up Safrano Pink up on Google, and it is named after an antique rose of the same name.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Irises Bulbs Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Plant and/or Seed Trader Dahlias
Garden Photography Salvias Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hybridizer Region: Oregon
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TBMan
Dec 3, 2018 1:45 PM CST
Thanks Evelyn
That gives me the impression of the origin of the name, but not the color description, beyond a basic pink tone, after looking up the picture of the rose itself.
For the few intros that I have to my name, I enlisted the help of a local iris club member (hence the RHS description) and a artist lady friend that helped out with the actual color names. :)
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Irises Bulbs Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Plant and/or Seed Trader Dahlias
Garden Photography Salvias Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hybridizer Region: Oregon
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TBMan
Dec 3, 2018 1:46 PM CST
.... Oh, and those resources are no longer available to me, so I'm on my own, lol
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 3, 2018 2:00 PM CST
Timothy ~ If I were a professional hybridizer, I would invest in the RHS Colour Chart from their website. It would be a wise investment. Get the latest edition, as it has names along with the numbers.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Dec 3, 2018 8:16 PM CST
I just googled the words "colour name chart" and found a few links like these:
https://graf1x.com/list-of-col...
http://cloford.com/resources/c...
Name: Monty Riggles
Henry County, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Oops. The weeds took over!
Irises Region: Virginia Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Garden Procrastinator
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UndyingLight
Dec 4, 2018 12:14 AM CST
I know the feeling on ridiculously descriptive colour descriptions. You do not need 100 words to describe one colour!

I wish ya luck on finding some not over the top iris colour descriptions! Hilarious!
Dolly the chicken thinks my head is food!
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
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irisarian
Dec 4, 2018 9:16 PM CST
Keppel has some artist color chart, therefore some of his crazy names. I would make it as simple as possible. Try paint chips? giving the brand.
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 4, 2018 9:37 PM CST
Totally_Amazing said:I just googled the words "colour name chart" and found a few links like these:
https://graf1x.com/list-of-col...
http://cloford.com/resources/c...


Robin ~ Thank you. There are probably more online. Great idea! Thumbs up
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 4, 2018 9:47 PM CST
Here's another one...

https://graf1x.com/list-of-col...
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 4, 2018 10:00 PM CST
And here's another one...

https://digitalsynopsis.com/de...

“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Dec 5, 2018 4:31 PM CST
Thanks for the acorn Evelyn Green Grin!
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 5, 2018 5:36 PM CST
Robin ~ You are Welcome! I tip my hat to you.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Dec 6, 2018 5:40 AM CST
I would imagine, that if you checked on Amazon, you could get a reprint copy of Ridgeway's Color Standards. The colors aren't "totally accurate", as it would be a photo copy of a pretty old book (which probably has "changed hues" over the years), but the descriptive names of the colors are quite interesting. Shrug!
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 6, 2018 12:40 PM CST
Arlyn ~ With this book, "Color Standards and Color Nomenclature: With Fifty-Three Colored Plates and Elev:Full Color Photographic Edition by Robert Ridgway, I also found Werner's Nomenclature of Colours: Adapted to Zoology, Botany, Chemistry, Anatomy and the Arts by Patrick Syme (for only $14.95) Smiling
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Dec 6, 2018 6:21 PM CST
I sent for the Ridgeway's several years ago....from Amazon....when it was first "re offered" (an "original" copy is WAY too pricey Blinking ), but, when I received it...it was all in "black and white" Confused ! I contacted Amazon, and they said that I wasn't the first to complain (apparently there was one "batch" that *somebody* screwed up on( hard to believe that ANYONE would make a black and white copy of a book of color samples D'Oh! ), and sent me a replacement copy....in COLOR Thumbs up . I've found it quite handy when trying to ID historic iris....it was , apparently, one of the standards used by many of the early hybridizers, when "describing" the colors of their intros (in the days before color photography was a common thing). The "names" of some of the colors are very descriptive , ...you might say "colorful" Sticking tongue out
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 6, 2018 8:42 PM CST
Arlyn ~ Thank You!
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)

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