Sorry but this is a little OT (off topic). I was rereading this thread and saw where
@CarolHB had said that something actually looks really good in her mind. That is just too funny. And I sometimes have the same tendency,
BTW
@pearson1662, I have a brother (the one with the ivy) who lives in OKC. If you have any specific questions I can always grill him or his SO. I do know that they have a lot of sun because they grow vegetables all summer. But they also might have some shaded areas too.
