Thanks, Lynn. They do grow under masses of shade from other plants.
Yes, I'm at the corner of 54th and Eleventh Avenue. Next time you're in town
stop by and say hello. I've got nearly 60 roses and a horde of other plants
on a 150' X 15' plot. Yes, folks love it. Some folks love it too much. This past
week I had three large red coleus in an old used pot stolen during the night.
I'm used to that. Nothing in the garden has any value to anyone other than
a gardener!