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Feb 12, 2022 7:06 AM CST
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Inspired by a recent thread to look through decades old photographs, found a number of flowers that I don't know what they are or what specific type or genus/species.

Would like to add these to the database if that would help, but need some help identifying what they are.

edit... responses added for those ID'd

An orchid, anyone know what type it might be?
#1 Wilsonara Hybrid
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#2 Phlox (P. subulata)
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#3 Leucadendron 'Summer Sun'
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#4 Cistus / Rock Rose
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#5 Lantana
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#6 tibouchina
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Feb 12, 2022 7:07 AM CST
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Part 2

#7 Cattleya hybrid
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#8 Dianthus maybe D. gratianopolitanus
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#9 Baptisia
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#10 Cleome
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#11 Columbine (Aquilegia)
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#12 Pasque flower (Pulsatilla)
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Feb 12, 2022 7:21 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Gorgeous pics! In the future, these are so much easier when there is 1 pic per post. or at least numbers.
Compare to these suggestions:
1- orchid, not sure which kind
2- creeping Phlox (P. subulata)
3- ?
4- ?
5- Lantana
6- ?

Part 2
1- another orchid
2- Dianthus, maybe D. gratianopolitanus
3- ?
4- Cleome?
5- columbine (Aquilegia)
6- pasque flower (Pulsatilla) I think
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Feb 12, 2022 7:30 AM CST
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Cistus

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Feb 12, 2022 7:32 AM CST
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Dianthus

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cleome
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columbine
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pasque flower
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Feb 12, 2022 7:35 AM CST
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This would be my thoughts for some of them.
2. Creeping phlox
4. Rock Rose (Cistus)
5. Lantana
8. Dianthus
9. Baptisia
10. Cleome
11. Columbine (Aquilegia)
12. Pulsatilla
Hope this is helpful. Smiling
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Feb 12, 2022 8:00 AM CST
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purpleinopp said: Gorgeous pics! In the future, these are so much easier when there is 1 pic per post. or at least numbers.
Compare to these suggestions:
1- orchid, not sure which kind
2- creeping Phlox (P. subulata)
3- ?
4- ?
5- Lantana
6- ?

Part 2
1- another orchid
2- Dianthus, maybe D. gratianopolitanus
3- ?
4- Cleome?
5- columbine (Aquilegia)
6- pasque flower (Pulsatilla) I think


Thanks much, and I was wondering how to make this easier. I'll try edit and number the pictures in the original posts. By the way, thanks for creating the really fun thread that inspired me in the first place!
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My pleasure! There's no reason to change this one now, with several replies. Just keep in mind for your next great pics. : )
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Feb 12, 2022 8:15 AM CST
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Wow! You guys are fast and know your stuff.

10 of 12 identified in about 30 minutes on a Saturday morning!

I'm very impressed!
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#3 is some kind of Leucadendron
Several listed in the plant database here.
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First orchid Oncidium alliance and second orchid Cattleya alliance. BigBill might recognize specifically.
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@BigBill I think your orchid knowledge is needed right now. Smiling
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I am bowling right now. But #7 is a complex Cattleya hybrid. It will be nearly impossible to get an exact ID. But I will give it my best when it is fully open. Take images straight on.

Number 2 is indeed an Oncidium. It is a complex hybrid but give me a little time tomorrow on my puter and I think I can get you a name.
Oops, #1 is a Wilsonara maybe? Not sure but I hope to find it.
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I have looked into this orchid and I did not get as close to a correct name as I had hoped.
The closest I could come was either Colmanara Rose Garden aka Oncostele Rose Garden. They are the same hybrid but the name change was due to DNA investigation.
The other good possibility is Wilsonara Sheila Anne. Actually I like Sheila Anne the best. It seemed to be pretty similar. BUT within complex orchid hybrids whether it is Oncidiums, Cattleyas or others, the more generations of parentage, the more muddy the waters become.
Unfortunately I can not say with a high degree of certainty what this is exactly.
I feel almost certain that it is a Wilsonara, 90% sure. 10% chance it's a Oncostele.
The correct hybrid name is tough. If it was a 'mericlone', it would be an exact match. No doubt. But I don't think this hybrid is a mericlone.
But within these hybrids, there can be several variations yet they have the same name. Knowing exactly where this came from, and when, could help narrow it down further. As a result, knowing it is a hybrid of the late 90's, or mid 2,000's, would help. But even that is hard to pin down.
THE EXACT NAME IS ONLY OF GREAT IMPORTANCE is if it was going to be AOS judged. But saying simply it is a Wilsonara hybrid means that in orchid shows nowadays, it could win a ribbon.
My suggestion is to call it "Wilson" after the movie Castaway.
Call it Wilsonara hybrid
Or call it Wilsonara Sheila Anne and let it go as that.
Normally I can ID some of these unknowns to a 95-100% degree of certainty. The best I can do here is a 50-50 chance.
I am sorry that I could not do any better!!!
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Wow! I am learning so much. I'll update the 1st post and calling this one done. Thanks so much everyone for taking the time to help.
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If you would like to add any of these to the database, you can use the generic entries for each type of plant (since we can't be certain of their exact ids). In the case of the two orchids, that would be:

Dancing Lady Orchid (Oncidium) for Oncidium Alliance hybrids
Orchid (Cattleya) for Cattleya Alliance hybrids

Unfortunately the Wilsonara genus has been deprecated; in the case of Wilsonara Sheila Anne that Bill suspects this one might be, it would now be Oncidium Sheila Anne, so the Oncidium generic entry is fine for this.
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