Can anyone explain this to me how this works, it looks like this daylily does not exist by this name, I did find PINK WINGS but it is a different hybridizer. I'd like to hear what you all think?

Daylily (Hemerocallis 'EDL Punch Yellow')

This one too, there are several of them. I'll give it guess. I think 'someone' is stealing other people's day lilies, naming it something else, registering that name and selling them as 'something new'.?? Am I off base?

The "Everydaylily" series are trademarked but I think not registered. I have one. I remember writing about my plant in this thread, which may interest you:

The thread " EveryDaylily® Series of daylilies" in Daylilies forum

The hybridizer, Gerard Heemskerk, is from the Netherlands and between 2005 and 2015 he registered 145 daylilies. In 2015, he registered six daylilies and three of those begin with 'EDL'. I'm guessing he decided he didn't need to register them with the AHS anymore.

His website has a list of plants "found by Heemskerk" by year and it shows that he found EveryDaylily Pink Wing in 2015. His plant is a dip and only 15" with a 3" bloom. The AHS database shows Pink Wings as a tet 27" with a 5.5" bloom.
http://www.heemskerkplants.com...

Now on the other link to EveryDaylily Yellow Punch, it looks like there are two entries in the NGA database for the same plant:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'EDL Punch Yellow')

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If you follow the link to AHS cultivar information from the NGA pages it takes you to their registered names. I'd assume the trade mark pages should be removed and those alternatives noted under the registered name pages.

Oh, I see! That makes sense. I agree that those trademarked pages need to be taken out of the NGA database as an entry and the trademark names added to the AHS registered entry.

So Heemskerk is still registering his daylilies. I just found his 'EDL Red' in the AHS database and it was registered in 2021, but on his website it only shows it as 'EveryDaylily Red'.

Thanks, Sue!

There are 11 daylilies with EDL at the beginning in the AHS database at the moment - amongst them there is EDL Pink Wing and EDL Punch Yellow.
Some time ago I was looking for my Everydaylily Cream and found it there written as EDL Cream.
The EDL prefix means that the plant is a northern rebloomer (but there are other northern rebloomers from there without the prefix - e.g. Longfields Piglet) - Heemskerk is still registering other daylilies without/without this abbreviation at the beginning (17 in 2021).
Up to now I've never looked them up in the NGA database - is there a possibility to search by hybridizer?

Nightlily said:
The EDL prefix means that the plant is a northern rebloomer (but there are other northern rebloomers from there without the prefix - e.g. Longfields Piglet)

Up to now I've never looked them up in the NGA database - is there a possibility to search by hybridizer?

I had assumed the EDL might be to indicate that the cultivar is trademarked as EveryDayLily. Yes you should be able to search the NGA database by hybridizer.

The easy way to check AHS registrations is to follow the AHS link at the top of each NGA plant details page.

For what it's worth, I think you are right, Sue. I think EDL is being used when Heemskirk is registering his daylilies here, but he is branding them as part of this EveryDaylily group.

It's not unlike Earlybird Cardinal and Earlybird Oriole being marketed and sold by those names but are actually registered as Endless Heart and Centerton One.

Lyshack said: For what it's worth, I think you are right, Sue. I think EDL is being used when Heemskirk is registering his daylilies here, but he is branding them as part of this EveryDaylily group.

It's not unlike Earlybird Cardinal and Earlybird Oriole being marketed and sold by those names but are actually registered as Endless Heart and Centerton One.

Yes, the clue to look for is that Earlybird Cardinal, for example, should be written in a different font followed by the actual cultivar name in upper and lower case and enclosed with single quotes. So something like Hemerocallis EARLYBIRD CARDINAL ('Endless Heart')

Only the cultivar name should be in single quotes, a trade designation shouldn't be. That makes it easy to tell, but of course not everyone follows the proper procedure.....

Oh okay some of that makes sense now. I did not think to use the link here at the database, just typed in the name at AHS but did not abreviate the EDL portion.

So I am to understand that these are unique daylilies which he hybridized, and not a daylily already registered by someone else. (I've seen that happen in the past so is why I was suspicious).

This is the AHS entry for -- Pink Wings (Rudolph, 1981)
height 27 inches (69 cm), bloom 5.5 inches (14 cm), season M, Dormant, Tetraploid, Pink blend edged yellow with lemon yellow throat. (Rose Festival × Neon Yellow)

They are not the same plant.
So I my concern initially is that it may be listed twice in the database, but be the same plant so that is why I was looking into this. For example I noticed a while back that Proven Winners came out with a new plant. Well they marketed it as new, I guess meaning technically new to their sales line up but sorta felt like they were trying to make people think it WAS new or that it was exclusive to them somehow. Rainbow Rhythm Ruby Spider. Well. It's just Ruby Spider. So you can see how some people may think they are two different plants, when in fact they are not at all. I thought that was what might be going on here with the pink wing thing.

This stuff does get confusing sometimes to sort. I have noticed the same thing in the database here with HOSTA Diamond Lake. It is listed as SHADOWLAND Diamond Lake. But that is incorrect as far as I can see. If you buy it in Proven Winners pot it will say Shadowland in the name. But you can buy the same hosta a dozen other places without the Shadowland prefix. It is not registered with the American Hosta Society as Shadowland. I don't think it should be in the database with that name? That would be like putting Ruby Spider in the database as Rainbow Rhythm Ruby Spider, as if it were a different daylily. Rainbow Rythm is a name it is sold under but is the same plant. The same thing--Shadowland is a name it is sold under but it is the same plant.

Lyshack said: For what it's worth, I think you are right, Sue. I think EDL is being used when Heemskirk is registering his daylilies here, but he is branding them as part of this EveryDaylily group.

Heemskerk is a quite big player in the perennial business here in Europe - and produces plants (not only daylilies) with tissue-culture methods. As we do not have daylily nurseries like in the US here for many this is the only source for getting other daylilies than H. fulva because Heemskerk delivers plants to many garden centers.

Daylilies are not very common garden plants here and the AHS with the cultivar database is something many gardeners have never heard about. By chance they buy one daylily with the Everydaylily brand and if this plant performs well they will eventually buy some more in different colors - so it makes sense for the producer to create such a trademark.

If you only know the old fashioned cultivars that you easily can get here like Frans Hals or Stella de Oro you may like the Heemskerk cultivars much better. If you have cutting edge daylilies already in your garden you might be not very happy with them.

My Everydaylily Cerise was one of the first I got after Stella. I found it online, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were tissue-cultured. It came as a little yellowish fan in a plastic bag. I got three--two Cerise and one yellow one I don't have anymore. I knew very little about daylilies then.

I planted the two Cerise plants together, and I was very happy with them. They bloomed like crazy two summers ago--their second in my garden. First bloom was March 30, and they bloomed all summer with no break. The blooms weren't fancy, but they were pretty.

Unfortunately, when I got a bad rust outbreak last summer, Cerise was one of the victims. But it really was an astonishing bloomer.

DeweyRooter said: Unfortunately, when I got a bad rust outbreak last summer, Cerise was one of the victims. But it really was an astonishing bloomer.

This is an interesting information. As we do not have daylily rust here in Europe (I was told this is a problem in regions without winter freeze) there might be no evidence on this issue at the hybridizers side.
Hybridizing for rust resistance is not possible here - no one can find out if a cultivar is in danger to get infected.

Nightlily said: This is an interesting information. As we do not have daylily rust here in Europe...

First Report of Daylily Rust in Europe:
https://apsjournals.apsnet.org...

sooby said: First Report of Daylily Rust in Europe:
https://apsjournals.apsnet.org...

Are there reports since then? I've heard from a singular outbreak in Italy some years ago caused by plants imported from the US. A year later no infection was visible in the garden and never since then.

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Nightlily said: Are there reports since then? I've heard from a singular outbreak in Italy some years ago caused by plants imported from the US. A year later no infection was visible in the garden and never since then.

It was also intercepted and eradicated in the UK some years ago. There is a distribution map that shows it in Kaliningrad (between Poland and Lithuania) but I haven't found any references for that.

https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/PUCC...

This study looked at susceptibility of a very small number of European-bred daylilies:

"Among the seven European daylily cultivars analyzed in this study, one was considered as moderately resistant ('Cherry Tiger') and two as moderately susceptible ('German Highlight' and 'Romantic Rose'), whereas the other four cultivars shown susceptible to rust."

https://www.mdpi.com/2223-7747...

Eeeekkk, I will take my time to go through this thread and then gradually tackle the entries. I will add the Everydaylily designation to the Also Sold As section since that is how they are marketed with nurseries.

No, Sue, maybe I misunderstand, but I think the 'everyday' IS part of the daylily's registered name? It is registered w the AHS that way and is sold under only that name? But it is possible I my brain is still lost wandering around

Whereas, other plant brands, such as proven winners add registered trademark prefix to the ALREADY registered name, making it seem like 2 different plants when it is not.
Ruby Spider is also sold as Rainbow Rhythm Ruby Spider -they are the same plant. So only one entry, Ruby Spider would be correct. Proven winners has a bunch of these, I absolutely detest it. As near as I can tell none of those are listed here in our database. I just brought that up as an example of how companies do this, and that is what I thought was going on with the pink wing plant. However, the hostas in the database ARE listed as Shadowland, and I don't think they should be? According to the AHS website, the name of Diamond Lake IS Diamond Lake and PW added the extra, it is the same plant, so in the database entry Shadowland needs to come off of any plants that have that, and Shadowland needs to be added to the notes as "also sold as".

I thought the Every Day series was something like that-a plant also sold as "something else" but I don't think that is the case. It seem when registered with AHS it was abbreviated to EDL obviously because there were too many characters to be approved=the name was too long if it was all spelled out. But the EDL IS part of the registered name, Unlike the PW examples.

Oakes also sold some under false names, that were not registered. The All American Daylily Selection or something like that? And maybe a series they renamed with "Lady" as a prefix if I remember right.

Just a reminder to watch the database as we add things and use it, so that plants are not entered twice under other names. There will be a lot of entries coming in the next few months. Some time things fall through the cracks.