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May 29, 2023 6:01 PM CST
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Name: Teresa Cole
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I am having trouble finding the historic iris. I. Pallida Dalmatica on this site but see it listed in catalogs often. Under I. Pallida there are common names and cultivars mentioned, but not Dalmatica. There is a Dalmatian iris under Pallida. Not sure if it is the same, but again, in catalogs and on the Historical Iris Preservation site it is listed by itself as Dalmatica. And Bluebird Haven Irises lists it for sale.
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May 29, 2023 6:29 PM CST
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May 29, 2023 6:32 PM CST
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May 29, 2023 6:35 PM CST
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No this one, Zebra is a cultivar of the species.
Species Iris (Iris pallida)
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May 29, 2023 6:39 PM CST
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One of the images I posted to that entry has a Old House Gardens link n the caption.


It's their image and looks like they carry it.
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May 29, 2023 8:34 PM CST
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Do you mean you can't find it in the Irises Database? It's here: Tall Bearded Iris (Iris pallida 'Dalmatica') and has been there since the database was created in 2011.
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May 29, 2023 9:53 PM CST
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Green Grin! I need to slow down reading!
If you had just entered 'Dalmatica' in the database search, it would have come up. Or look at the alphabetical listing.
Kent, any idea why it doesn't come up in the list when search with 'Iris pallida'? Confused Dalmatica should be included.
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May 30, 2023 6:58 AM CST
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It doesn't? It did for me when I tried it just now.
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May 30, 2023 7:38 AM CST
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Sorry Kent, I should quit while I'm ahead as they say, (or before I get further behind with blindness from lack of sleep!) You are right, it's there! *Blush*
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May 30, 2023 7:47 AM CST
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Name: Teresa Cole
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Thank you guys for your help. I SWEAR I looked under I. Pallida, Pallida Dalmatica of course, Dalmatica; everything I could think of. But after reading your comments and checking….it is there ( I. Pallida still shows Dalmatian and not Dalmatica). I dont understand technology and it's many glitches and can't explain it, but thank you for replying so quickly.
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May 30, 2023 9:32 AM CST
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ttkc4704 said: ( I. Pallida still shows Dalmatian and not Dalmatica).


Confused
Kent posted the Dalmatica iris above. Tall Bearded Iris (Iris pallida 'Dalmatica')
Linked below is the Iris pallida search results, it shows Dalmatica which is the cultivar name, shown between 2 single quotation marks. Within several of those, if you open them, it shows Dalmatian Iris listed as a Common name, along with several other known common names like Species iris, Sweet Iris. (The Dalmatian common name was not added to the Dalmatica entry.)
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May 30, 2023 9:59 AM CST
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Name: Teresa Cole
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Thank you so much. Just to be clear, are you saying Dalmatian and Dalmatica are the same iris?
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May 30, 2023 10:02 AM CST
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Name: Teresa Cole
Bayfield, Colorado S.W. Rockie (Zone 4b)
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Also, HIPS says it is dated 1887, and this site says it was collected in the 1600's.
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May 30, 2023 10:11 AM CST
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Any of the cultivars related to the species pallida can have the common name of Dalmatian iris.
"Iris pallida is commonly known as Dalmatian iris because it is native to Dalmatia, a province of Croatia."
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May 30, 2023 10:37 AM CST
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ttkc4704 said: Thank you so much. Just to be clear, are you saying Dalmatian and Dalmatica are the same iris?


No. "Dalmation Iris" is one of the many common names of Iris pallida. 'Dalmatica' is a particular variety (cultivar) of Iris pallida.
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