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Oct 8, 2023 4:36 PM CST
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A number of years ago I bought the plant " Wigged Out" as I love the weird and unusual . It has grown fairly well here but I have never seen a bloom and have never split the plant or taken any divisions off of it.

I have a seedling bed that I started two years ago and this year got to see the blooms of those seedlings. I also got to see these ......4 different plants from seeds I got on the lily auction however I have no idea what the crosses were as tags were heaved in year 1 and probably are in another county by now . Anyway here are the pics of 4 of these seedlings as they "bloomed" this year.

Does anyone know if this happens alot ?
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I guess this kind of anomaly is not so weird after all?

Anyone else experience anything like this ?
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Oct 8, 2023 4:53 PM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey Highlands, Ontario (Zone 5a)
I have not seen it any seedling I have grown.
I do grow 'Wigged Out'.
I think that the characteristic is very rare. However, I expect that there are daylilies that carry the gene for producing the 'Wigged Out' characteristic but do not show any evidence of it. When two such daylilies are crossed together (which is probably extremely rare) it is possible that a few of the seedlings might show the characteristic.

I would guess that all four seedlings are siblings.
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Oct 8, 2023 5:00 PM CST
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admmad , thanks for your feedback. I am just so surprised that these seedlings are producing this oddity. You are correct ( at least I am pretty sure that all 4 are siblings as they grow in a row one after the other .Just wish I knew what the cross was.
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Oct 8, 2023 5:33 PM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey Highlands, Ontario (Zone 5a)
signet said: admmad , thanks for your feedback.


@signet You are very welcome.

I am just so surprised that these seedlings are producing this oddity. You are correct ( at least I am pretty sure that all 4 are siblings as they grow in a row one after the other .Just wish I knew what the cross was.


Oh, how very much I wish that you knew what the cross was Confused I agree Sighing!
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Oct 9, 2023 7:17 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Wigged Out is certainly a curious daylily. Is the top of it just a lot of proliferations bunched up together?

Nell Dean had a scape this year that had several prolifs at the top and it had one bloom. Was wondering if this would be similar to Wigged Out, only on a much smaller scale.

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Oct 9, 2023 7:42 AM CST
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Interesting!!!
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Oct 9, 2023 7:49 AM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey Highlands, Ontario (Zone 5a)
blue23rose said: Is the top of it just a lot of proliferations bunched up together?
...Was wondering if this would be similar to Wigged Out, only on a much smaller scale.


Probably similar in some respects.

'Wigged Out' (WO) does not usually produce any normal flower buds (I have yet to see a flower on it here). I have not looked at what it might be doing in any detail but it seems to replace flower buds (floral meristems) with vegetative growing points (shoot apical meristems). Proliferations seem to usually replace scape (inflorescence) branch (reproductive) meristems with vegetative meristems. I do not know whether WO also replaces scape branch meristems (reproductive) with vegetative meristems.

There seem to be a large number of apparent proliferations in the the clumps at the top of the scapes of WO. There might be too many for each one to be replacing a flower bud. I have seen proliferation-like sprouts on a different daylily that came from inside of its seed pods so it is possible that WO has a problem with meristematic tissue associated with flowering (reproductive) in general.
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Oct 9, 2023 8:01 AM CST
Name: Vickie
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Thanks, Maurice!
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Oct 9, 2023 8:44 AM CST
Name: Orion
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In your Lily Auction history should be a record of every purchase you ever made?
Unless they were bonus seeds you can at least narrow down your candidates. By the positioning of your plant beds you may be able to narrow down which year specifically to search from.
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Oct 12, 2023 11:31 AM CST
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Plasko, thanks for the suggestion. I know that these seeds were from 2020 and planted that winter in the house to set out spring of 2021 , no blooms of course that summer , then in 2022 only some plants bloomed for the first time ( not the ones in question ) by this year the tags were gone and I had not written down the crosses in any book as I had tried that previously and found that method to be useless as when I checked gardens some plants had died so the listing was no longer of any use . I would love to hear how everyone (especially the commercial growers ) manage to record their seedlings so that the following year or years they are still able to confirm that the seedlings are the crosses they planted out . I have tried even rolling up a tag and planting it beside the plant at the same time as the plant is installed . The clay soil here does not seem to like that as it heaves even these tags and our pretty much constant winds blow the tags away. Very very frustrating
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Oct 12, 2023 12:57 PM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey Highlands, Ontario (Zone 5a)
I rely on maps of the beds that I make right after planting the bed for the first time and that I update when I move, replace, etc. plants.
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