Plasko, thanks for the suggestion. I know that these seeds were from 2020 and planted that winter in the house to set out spring of 2021 , no blooms of course that summer , then in 2022 only some plants bloomed for the first time ( not the ones in question ) by this year the tags were gone and I had not written down the crosses in any book as I had tried that previously and found that method to be useless as when I checked gardens some plants had died so the listing was no longer of any use . I would love to hear how everyone (especially the commercial growers ) manage to record their seedlings so that the following year or years they are still able to confirm that the seedlings are the crosses they planted out . I have tried even rolling up a tag and planting it beside the plant at the same time as the plant is installed . The clay soil here does not seem to like that as it heaves even these tags and our pretty much constant winds blow the tags away. Very very frustrating