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Jun 18, 2017 7:30 PM CST
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Name: Julie
La Crescenta, CA (Zone 10a)
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I believe it to be some variety of wildflower!



Thank you!
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Jun 19, 2017 11:49 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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The leaves are preventing a positive id.
Looks like a rudbeckia... But.... Which one?

Can you post pictures of entire plant?

Possibly California coneflower...
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Jun 19, 2017 11:59 AM CST
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Name: Julie
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Coneflower? Sounds like a possibility!


That is the entire plant --

Thanks again!
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Jun 19, 2017 12:03 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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JulieB said:
That is the entire plant!

I mean.... Stand back a little....
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Jun 19, 2017 12:05 PM CST
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Name: Julie
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Got it! Sorry!

No need - that's clearly what it is -

Thanks!
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Jun 19, 2017 12:08 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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JulieB said:
No need -


But.....
I want to see more pictures!

Maybe you can add to database when positively identified....
There's no pics for rudbeckia Californica.
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Jun 19, 2017 1:12 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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The leaves don't look right for Rudbeckia californica, the ID plant's are heart-shaped and appear to clasp the stem - it looks rather unusual. The flower does look like a coneflower of some kind.

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Jun 19, 2017 2:32 PM CST
Name: Sue
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It looks rather like Dracopis amplexicaulis "clasping coneflower", syn. Rudbeckia amplexicaulis:

A pic of the leaves:

https://www.google.ca/search?q...:

In some pictures the leaves seem more toothed than the ID plant though but the habit seems right.

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Jun 19, 2017 2:38 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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The leaves are wrong for Rudbeckia californica. And it does not occur anywhere in Southern California.

I think we have the wrong coneflower. Maybe Rudbeckia amplexicaulis

https://www.google.com/search?...:

R. amplexicaulis is native to the southern U.S. but you can buy seeds for it.


Edited to add: Sooby and I are on the same trail.
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Jun 19, 2017 2:43 PM CST
Name: stone
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My first choice actually was rudbeckia maxima.



Is why we need more pictures of this plant.
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Jun 19, 2017 2:52 PM CST
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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I have R.maxima and it's not that for sure.
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Jun 19, 2017 4:12 PM CST
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Moved to generic rudbeckia entry for now.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:13 PM CST
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Name: Julie
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Sorry about that!

Here's the best biggest shot I've got now. I'll take some more if you need. I'm in Southern California & likely planted it with other bulbs and wildflowers.

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Jun 21, 2017 1:42 PM CST
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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Yes more photos please. I would love to know what you have there. A photo of the entire plant, the base of it. Just to see if the leaves are the same shape at the base. Maybe a more mature flower too. It's very interesting and someone, I'm sure will figure it out. I tip my hat to you.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:32 PM CST
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Name: Julie
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Here she is, writ large!

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Jun 23, 2017 4:27 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I'm still going with Dracopis amplexicaulis (syn. Rudbeckia amplexicaulis), clasping coneflower. Here's the leaf and flower stem structure again:

https://www.google.ca/search?q...:
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Jun 23, 2017 4:39 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Me too.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Jun 23, 2017 6:37 PM CST
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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Very interesting looking for a Rudbeckia. I may have too try it. I tip my hat to you.
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Jun 24, 2017 12:55 AM CST
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Name: Julie
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Thank you all! I do love an odd looking bloom!
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