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Jun 23, 2017 10:37 AM CST
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Fort Worth, Texas
How long after planting the Zephirine Drouhin Rose Bush will it bloom? I planted last spring, the foliage is healthy and strong but still no blooms in late June. I live in Northern Texas
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Jun 24, 2017 10:41 AM CST
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Hello, Welcome!
Not sure where everyone is, probably out playing in the dirt. I`m on my way outside to look at how far behind I am D'Oh!
Is this your first rose bush? I have thought about getting a Zephirine Drouhin a few years ago. Don`t know why I didn`t. I looked it up in our rose data base Lovey dubby .
Do you know how to use the data base? It has a lot of info, esp. on your rose.
To the left of the blue home tab is the `Plants Database`. click on it to pull the menu down. Now click on the `Search by Name`- type in rosa zephirine drouhin (be sure to spell it correctly).
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Jun 24, 2017 11:02 AM CST
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Ooops ! I`m really no good at computers.
Anyway,click on the magnify glass icon and that should take you to your rose. Be sure to scroll ALL the way down to the bottom of the page to the listed articles.
You can look at some info till someone can be of more help.
I need to run now, be back later. Patience. Smiling
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Jun 24, 2017 11:59 AM CST
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Moved to the Rose Forum.

How much sun does it get? Water? Did you add anything to the planting hole? Compost?
Fertilizer? Many newly planted roses take their first year to really develop their root system so they can support all those new leaves and eventual blooms. The old saying 'First year sleep, second year creep, third year leap' can be applied to many plants including roses.

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Jun 25, 2017 11:58 AM CST
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Fort Worth, Texas
thank you for the replies. I put some miracle grow dirt in the hole. I have a young male boxer that digs up everything else. I also put the Jobes rose food sticks in the ground this year. It gets sun from 12 noon till dusk and I have the sprinklers on 2x a week and will water if its too hot. The foliage looks super healthy, and I am hoping that next year I will have a rose explosion. I've had rose bushes, climbers and ground before and they all have bloomed the first year. I will be patient.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:29 PM CST
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Well worth the wait Lovey dubby
We love progress reports, even `bout your `garden helper` doggie Rolling my eyes.
Best wishes till next time Thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2017 10:14 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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I planted two Zepherine Drouhin roses north of a very dense alligator juniper. When they reached six feet in height in their fifth year they were tall enough to get a full six to ten hours of sun in summer. That's when they started to bloom.

It's been worth the wait.

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Note that the hammock is almost always in full shade but the rose from about waist height on up is in full sun through most of the day in late May, June, and early July.
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Jun 30, 2017 10:25 AM CST
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Fort Worth, Texas
WOW, it's awesome!!. Mine gets lots is Sun. I live in Texas. Sun, sum Sun. Can't wait. It's already up to 12 feet high. Do you prune in the spring g?

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Jun 30, 2017 3:13 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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No pruning yet. It's a little bit shrubby right now for training on an arch. It probably would have grown taller if I had started taking out canes last year. I think I'll take out about half the canes next year to encourage long cane development.
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Nov 1, 2019 3:57 PM CST
Name: David
Youngstown, Ohio (Zone 6a)
I wanted to create an english stlye looking bed on the front of our house with a pink climbing rose growing around/above windows with delphiniums under. The front of the house is north facing so the back half of the raised bed is basicly solid shade, I had already locally found 2 zephirine drouhin which I read where shade tolerant (images of which gave me the idea for the garden). I had planted them there but forward enough to be in the sun.....now I realize it would not look very good on the ground from the plant base to the wall and may not grow tall enough to meet in the center above the window, so I am wondering if it would do as well farther back into the shade, or just to put in a garden arch. I could not move the evergreens in the photo, but the other plants there are peonies, they need moved into better sun anyway I just put them there to have good drainage until I could figure out where to put them last year. They did grow and leaf but did not get any blooms (lack of sun). I could only move the roses 2 ft back because of the basement window well, or move them behind the arborvitae where they would truely never get any sun.
Any suggestions for them to continue to live and to bloom well? They were spring bagged roses I planted in pots then transplanted here last fall, they each had 2-4 blooms this year.
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Nov 1, 2019 5:34 PM CST
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
The "shade tolerant" part about 'Zephirine Drouhin' has been repeated blindly by many nurseries, but this rose really prefers as much sun as do most other roses. I don't know where it started -- perhaps some English writer suggested it for a North wall. But that doesn't mean the same thing there as it does here. Maybe ZD will survive in shade because it's so vigorous, but it won't bloom nearly as much as it would with sun. Maybe it'll just grow until it reaches sun, then bloom there.

Unfortunately, there are many examples of plant sellers describing an attribute that isn't necessarily true, but it results in more sales. Better to ask someone who has grown the plant. But, if you want to give it a shot and see what happens, that's how most of us learned.

:-)

~Christopher
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May 5, 2022 10:05 PM CST

Good evening. I'm in California about 45 Miles east of San Francisco. Zone 9b
I've been so confused as to what second rose I could buy to blend in with my Cecile Brunner. I have about 140 feet of road iron fencing around the front of my house I live on a corner and this is so Bruner has done beautifully although it is very very strong and the canes are just on my God! I had mixed in there previously some lady banks rose but I was disappointed with it because they only bloom for a very short time and then the flowers blow away very easily so I just dug them out.
I just purchased two of those beautiful ZD rose climbers. For the most part the comments I've heard from people is that they're very nice some people had never heard of them and just this afternoon I've read some negative comments about them so I'm a little worried please tell me that I made the right decision for my zone because I'm gonna have my gardener plant them this weekend they'll be planted and hopefully will eventually blend in I guess what I mean by that is I want them to mix in with the Cecile Brunner on the fencing hope I'm making sense. Any help and advice you could give me I would surely appreciate it thank you
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May 5, 2022 10:25 PM CST
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
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I planted my ZD for 2 years in the same spot and it never bloomed, so I gave it away. I have 2 Cecile Brunner, they are free from RVR, I planted Souvenir de La Malmaison clinmbimg version to blend in, large pink with small pink roses.
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May 6, 2022 10:18 AM CST
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