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Jun 20, 2012 1:25 AM CST
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Kate, I don't envy you with that project. What a backbreaking, tedious job that must've been. Sure hope it did the trick for you though.
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Jun 20, 2012 5:37 AM CST
Name: Kate
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twitcher said:Kate, I've been meaning to ask you for some time now. We did a trade several years ago and you included nice plastic labels for all you sent. The plastic labels did last a long time, but are starting to get brittle and break. What is most important, is that the writing on the label was some sort of permanent marker that did not fade or deteriorate after all this time. I would like to ask you what marker you use to do that. Everything I try seems to fade in a year or two. What's your secret?


Were they handwritten? If yes, it was artist's pencil. They are very dark and last as long as the plastic tag. If they were typewritten, it was done on a laser printer on tyvek 80/page labels.
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Jun 20, 2012 1:28 PM CST

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Must have been the artist pencil then. It was handwritten and very dark, but it did look like written with a pen and some kind of ink. I'll have to check that out. Currently I am experimenting with Sharpie Industrial Markers, supposedly a more permanent, permanent marker. Plants are doing great!
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Jun 20, 2012 1:46 PM CST
Name: Kate
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twitcher said:Must have been the artist pencil then. It was handwritten and very dark, but it did look like written with a pen and some kind of ink. I'll have to check that out. Currently I am experimenting with Sharpie Industrial Markers, supposedly a more permanent, permanent marker. Plants are doing great!


Always happy to hear that plants are doing well. Part of my de-mossing, compost-topping project was to shift many of the alpines and make more sections for semps. Now have openings for a dozen or so ... what to do... which to choose ...
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Jun 20, 2012 2:56 PM CST
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Twitch, have you tried the Garden Marker pens?
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Jun 20, 2012 3:19 PM CST
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Kate let me know if there are any I can send you.
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Jun 20, 2012 5:12 PM CST

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Kate, I tried those a few years back and didn't like them for some reason I no longer remember. I think the writing tip was too large and it dried out on me but not sure.

I went out and checked some of the remaining labels from you. I believe they are from 2009 and are still unfaded and unsmeared. Clearly, however, they were made with some kind of ink, not pencil, and fine point. Hope you can remember, as they are great. I think if the marker was used to mark a heavy UV-stabilized PVC label, that they would last 5 years or longer.

The major thing I am doing to keep from losing labels is to mark labels where the lettering goes under ground. No exposure to UV means that they do not fade, so the limiting factor is the plastic of the label (that sticks out of the ground). If I also mark the top of the label that sticks out of the ground, then I can use it to ID the plant. The important thing is to remember to write the label on the part that goes in the ground as well.

I'd offer to send you some plants too, but things are so complex and challenging here that I am not making any more commitments at the moment. One would say that "life is happening" here. Still, I'd like to help if things settle down a bit. Please keep me in mind if you are looking for something specific and tree-mail me. I'll try to help, even if it takes a bit of time to get to it.

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