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Jun 23, 2012 2:36 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Dave I am having some mixed results when searching by Characteristics in the sempervivum part of the database.
When I type in Kevin Vaughn it only gives me a few entries. If I type in just Kevin it will give me more entries. Still not sure if it is the complete list. The problem with just using the first name is that there is more than one person with the same first name, that has named plants in the database. He/she would have a different last name however.

How is it that it won't give me the entire list for a complete name of the hybridizer?

If I type in Betty Bronow or Betty Z Bronow, it comes up with nothing. If I type just Betty in 24.
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Jun 23, 2012 2:55 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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Maybe it would work better if you just used the hybridizer's surname, Lynn.
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Jun 23, 2012 3:21 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Bronow does come up with 25 if I just type in the surname. But how are new comers going to know what to type in?
I knew there were more in our database than what was coming up in a search, so I kept trying different ways. But most people will just assume that is all there is or there are none.
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Jun 23, 2012 3:31 PM CST
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There might be a need to post some tips on searching for newcomers (and for the rest of us too, for that matter). For instance, most people don't know that the inclusion of a hyphen in the search term totally messes up the search.
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Jun 23, 2012 3:35 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Yes, I've run into the hyphen thing. I don't make that mistake anymore. : )
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Jun 23, 2012 4:10 PM CST
Name: Janice
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How many semp Hybridizers are there Lynn?

Was thinking of a dropdown box of Hybridizers names to choose from. Then typing or misspelling the names would not be an issue.

Also have that in the database entry page.
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Jun 23, 2012 4:18 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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There are many. A whole lot. Bunches. That would be a lot of drop downs. I had thought about that until I realized how many there is.
And more are starting up again. We went for a very long time with only a few in Europe working at hybridizing. Looks like we now have some new comers starting up.
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Jun 23, 2012 4:26 PM CST
Name: Janice
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OIC.
That won't work then. Smiling
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Jun 23, 2012 4:40 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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That would make it easier, wouldn't it. Smiling
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Jun 23, 2012 5:43 PM CST
Name: Janice
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I don't know if it can be done,
but if you type the first letter of the last name, and then a dropdown box appears, containing all the Hybridizer names beginning with that letter. Then you choose from those.

Just a thought.
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Jun 23, 2012 7:54 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Not sure how that would be programmed?
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Jun 24, 2012 6:45 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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Dropdowns and autocomplete isn't going to work on these text fields. Searching on a text field is something one must know is going to sometimes require multiple tries to find what you're looking for. When searching for a hybridizer, I'd suggest searching on just their last name.

If their name is present in multiple formats (middle initial, etc) then it would be nice to try to find those and standardize them all to show the same exact name for the benefit of future searches.
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Jun 24, 2012 10:14 AM CST
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dave said:If their name is present in multiple formats (middle initial, etc) then it would be nice to try to find those and standardize them all to show the same exact name for the benefit of future searches.


It would be nice if all custom DB were set up with same standardization.

How about multiple names: ex.
Siberian Iris - Marty Schafer/Jan Sacks
Japanese Iris - Bob Bauer and John Coble
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Jun 24, 2012 10:53 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
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I have some like that in the semps Evan. : )
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Aug 12, 2012 1:47 PM CST
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Does the database point to the Daylilysearch feature?

If I search for Halloween Costume by Maryott in the db, it shows. But if I do a search for Maryott in the DL search program, it doesn't show.
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Aug 12, 2012 4:47 PM CST
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I've had the same problem when searching for daylilies by the same hybridizer. I was looking for all the Munson daylilies/ I typed in Munson. And only got back some of his daylilies. I tried the same thing over at Tinker's and it came back with 1061 Munson cultivers.
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Aug 12, 2012 4:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Is that information filled in for the missing cultivars? That might be the problem.
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Aug 12, 2012 5:02 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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They are there but the search by characteristics limits the results by the first 100 results found.
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Aug 12, 2012 5:14 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I am having trouble finding the parent plants to do a specific search in the plant.
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Aug 13, 2012 6:40 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Lynn, just click on the Plants Database link in the menubar at the top, then look on the right side of the top of that page and you'll see a window that says "Visit our custom databases:" - scroll down that little window there for the full list of all the custom databases you can visit.

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