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Aug 6, 2012 7:54 AM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Forum moderator Irises Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level
Information about the underground parts of plants is currently scattered in different parts of the plant entries. Rhizome is listed under Plant Habit, Corm and Stolons/Runners are listed under Propagation: Other methods, and Bulb is listed in both places. I've often wished that the various underground structures of plants (rhizomes, tubers, taproots, bulbs, corms, etc.) were all listed together in their own category.
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Aug 6, 2012 7:55 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
This is easily do-able.

We'll create a new category called something like "Underground structures" and every type will be listed out and can be checked off. I will then migrate the data from where they currently are over to the new location.

Could you tell me all the options you want?
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Aug 6, 2012 8:08 AM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
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Great idea. Some of this info. is in text boxes, at least for Aroids. ex. Elephant Ear (Colocasia esculenta)
see Propagation: Other methods: Other: Tuber. Can this be migrated as well?
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Aug 6, 2012 8:35 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Probably, if the text box says the same exact thing in every case. In that event if you tell me something like:

"Every time you see "Tuber" in "Propagation: Other methods: Other" then please check off "X" under "Y".

I can do that pretty easily.
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Aug 6, 2012 8:50 AM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Composter Plant Identifier
dave said:"Every time you see "Tuber" in "Propagation: Other methods: Other" then please check off "X" under "Y".


OT but is there a name for this kind of language string.
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Aug 6, 2012 8:52 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I usually refer to them as "Mass Change Proposals". Smiling And I love doing them, too!
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Aug 6, 2012 9:28 AM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Composter Plant Identifier
Thanks
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Aug 7, 2012 9:44 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Forum moderator Irises Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level
Sorry, haven't been at the computer much the past few days. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but here are a few examples that might usefully placed into an underground parts of plants category in the database:

Rhizome
Taproot
Corm
Bulb
Tuber

There are at least two types of tubers, stem tubers and root tubers, but I'm not sure it is worth making the distinction? Interestingly, potatoes (stem tubers) and sweet potatoes (root tubers) are two easy examples of the difference between the two types of tubers.

Stolons are a bit of a conundrum as well. They typically grow along or above the surface of the ground, so wouldn't seem to fit in this category. But, stolons are basically pretty similar to rhizomes. Both are stems that grow horizontally and produce new roots and shoots at nodes along their length.
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Aug 9, 2012 9:31 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I don't think we need to differentiate between stem or root tubers but we can easily add it later if we wish. I think for stolons, those are best addressed under the propagation methods area.

I have created the Underground Structures databox and added those 5 options to it.

Now I can do mass updates. What I want to do is:

For all plants that have "Plant Habit: Bulb" checked off, check off "Underground structures: Bulb".
For all plants that have "Plant Habit: Rhizome" checked off, check off "Underground structures: Rhizome"

Then remove Bulb and Rhizome from the Plant Habit databox.

Then, I propose I go through all the "Propagation: Other methods" checkboxes and leave them alone, but any plant who has checked off Bulbs or Corms will have the appropriate checkbox checked off.

If I'm leaving anything out, please let me know!
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Aug 9, 2012 9:52 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I also checked off "Tubers" for all plants that have a species name that begins with "tubero" (like tuberosa, tuberosum, etc)
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