That sure includes seeds. Ive seen alot of the year. I remember when you could not get a seed with an intro, Prettypony was going to outbid you, count on it. She got a ton of seeds, was a dentist, and in the end left alot of people high and dry.

This year there is someone who seems to be picking up where PP left off. More power to him. Still there is some big money, IMO, being paid for
seeds. It is somewhat perplexing when people pay more for seeds than if they had just bought the two plants.

Some of the people paying high prices for seeds are from other countries so they can't buy the plants, but yes there are some who pay big for seeds and could have bought the plants and there is one who probably already has the plants because he buys a lot of those too. It's called DAYLILY ADDICTION

I've managed to stay away from the LA thus far, but as far as seedlings go, I'm blessed to have some friends who are clearing out a seedling bed, so I've gotten a large amount of seedlings for free. Now, I won't know until next year what they even look like, but I'm cool with that. In fact, I plan to get some more from the same friend this weekend, since I gave away a lot of the ones I already got.