I am looking to buy Hylotelephium tatarinowii from someone in the European Union.

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Hi Paleo,

Can seeds be sent to you?

Well I found a place in Austria to buy them online, www.sarastro-stauden.com
Tatarinowii and Usuriense
Except quality is well, not really that smile inducing unfortunately.
I will have to see if those Ussuriense can be rooted, they do seem rather woody and the very tips broken that rooting may have issues at this time of the year. The Tatarinowii was deliberately cut by them it seems and new growth is etiolated.
I thought one of the worms sticking out the substrate is a broken stem.

I see that now even Erwin has Hyelotelephium Tatarinowii for those interested in buying from Europe, the one I bought in my photos above are not from him, but my last purchase from his was disappointing bad quality sempervivum that I am not really keen on placing another order, to be honest I would be ashamed to send such rosettes to clients.

How wonderful that you finally found H. tatarinowii and usuriense. Under your care I feel they will flourish. I can see that some are very woody. It is sad that people send plant in that condition. Just cut and stuck in a pot of soil, no roots.
What was wrong with the semps from Erwin?

valleylynn said: Just cut and stuck in a pot of soil, no roots.

Yeah, I will do that, luckily it is not so ultra hot these days 10 days (weather forecast says), so maybe there is a chance of actual rooting fast.

valleylynn said: What was wrong with the semps from Erwin

The rosettes where apparently stressed for a long time, they were small and had at least 10 rows of dead packed leaves the the base which after removal showed the stem was conical, meaning the plant was at some point bigger and gradually went smaller and smaller. Some of the roots were also rather woody and severed sometime in the past as they were healed.
Ohh well, not that the genetic material is not there to work with it, but I guess I was expecting better than that. Before when this was sent to me I would just cut the conical stem off entirely and wait 2 months until the plant was putting completely new roots, but considering the heat is going to come soon I just replanted it like it is.

So sorry.

Well, there is a funny twist to this also, the seller told me the Tatarinowii are like that because they took cuttings so they can propagate the plant. Yeah I see alright they cut the plant... So they are selling plants but at the dispatch moment they also cut the stems off so they can propagate them.
All 3 pots were "harvested" in this way, for propagation at their nursery.
Let's say I could not imagine that is a time to start propagating your plants as a seller by cutting them, after someone pays for them...

Oh no.

valleylynn said:Oh no.

When visiting a nursery of course no one is selling such plants, neither me as buyer I am buying plants in visible terrible condition.
But online you get some creative "explanations" from sellers.

I have seen those results from plants others have purchased. That is why I have not purchased plants from places like ebay, etsy or amazon. I am sure there are good sellers on those sites, I just don't know who is good and who is bad.

Don't buy from these greedy sellers, this how the tatarinowii looks now after some times compared to the how when I got them, just some thin hair like shoots developed.
I suspect the plant might have been harvested for cutting even twice, it doesn't matter once or twice.
The usuriense were too affected never came back never did nothing , they were very woody anyway, I threw them away.