Kevin,
I had those concerns as well, you'd think with one of the fuzziest sempervivum as a parent there'd be a little cilia to.
-Sol

I'm very skeptical of these new hybrid plants. Not sure they test them well before dropping them on the market.

I bought some of the Echibeckia when they first came out in nurseries. They are a cross between Rudbeckia x Echinacea. Supposed to be hardy to zone 7 as per the tag. Well they are not, paid perennial prices for a annual.

Julia yes that's funky - the plants sound intersting though!!

Well maybe we might just follow these for a while and see what we shall see. I'd happily volunteer my place to test them out if they need testers!

I would be skeptical that the plant is an intergeneric hybrid after all. It looks all Aeonium to me.

If you all don't mind an interloper, let me explain the Aeonium side of things.

Greenfire said:Okay, more info, the publication is the most recent quarterly journal from the British Cactus and Succulent Society.

The Semponium is Sempervivum "Green Ice" crossed with Aeonium Smith I x Aeonium "Cyclops" by Surreal Succulents

If I understand this right, the Aeonium parent is not "Cyclops" but

Aeonium (Aeonium smithii) x Aeonium 'Cyclops' (a tall plant)
=
Aeonium (Aeonium smithii) x (Aeonium (Aeonium undulatum) x Black Rose (Aeonium arboreum 'Zwartkop'))

That's an out of the way plant not least because A. smithii is uncommon in cultivation. A. smithii has hairy stems and experiences extreme summer dormancy (=death if watered regularly in summer). I think the parent in question is actually this named hybrid.

https://surrealsucculents.co.u...

What I would suspect is the Aeonium was the seed parent of "Sienna" and a pollinator got through with the magic sprinkles from another Aeonium flowering nearby. It would of course be pretty cool if the intergeneric part were true (eg. if the Sempervivum was actually the seed parent). I would predict a shorter stem than any of the above Aeoniums for a xSemponium hybrid, and that ought to be obvious pretty early on.

Baja you are not an interloper. Very interesting information you present.
Is there any where that actually states that the seed parent is a sempervivum?

Lynn I think until they release their announcement, they're keeping pretty mum on it. I haven't seen anything on it other than the one article.

Baja_Costero said:I would be skeptical that the plant is an intergeneric hybrid after all. It looks all Aeonium to me.

@Stush2019
Here is a thread I found.

Same here, I find no characterstics of semps too.

Thanks Alex. From what I heard the Semp is the pod parent but like Baja, only way to tell is to see how well it preforms. Could be just Aeonium.

I was in a webinar this last Spring with a guy that is a breeder/distributor of these and some other new plants. I'll try to find my notes about it. He's been behind several cool new introductions lately and his latest tease are ever-blooming Aloes and xSemponiums.

Hi John. That would be awesome if you can post info, or links to info.

Yes John, I'm interested too.

It is supposedly hardy to 24F.
I heard that it was genetically test (DNA).

Lynn, Zone 8 would be good for you but in my zone 6 means I still have to winter over indoors. Not what I was hopping for.

I am wondering if they would winter somewhat colder if kept against the house, under a patio roof?

I'm also interested to see when the growing season for these would be since Aeoniums are winter growers.

Okay, here's the scoop.
The presenter in the webinar was Peter van Rijssen and his company in the US is Concept Plants. They are a patent coordinator for plant breeders and growers. The grower is G&P Plants. At least one cross that was the foundation is Aeonium "Ice Warrior" x Sempervivum "Green Ice".
Their website is planting.eu .

John that address takes me to a place to create a website.