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Jan 20, 2024 6:44 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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They look like mini version of Cycadaceae, or larger version of E. Japonica
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Jan 20, 2024 7:30 PM CST
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Yeah, a bit like a mini pineapple too when young.

The mother of the branchy hybrid was japonica, or a very similar looking clumper, possibly a different version of the same cross.
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Jan 20, 2024 8:55 PM CST
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E. flanaganii with a bit of a blush in this new brighter location (the purplish red is strictly sun stress)

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A small offset from the same mother plant, just now turning the corner from rootless to rooted.

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It was all brown and will soon be mostly green. Buds on the way. I have never rooted a head this small (4" pot), it was apparently not very difficult.

Another medusa in bud

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Smaller medusa in bloom

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Euphorbia adjacent plant (Jatropha) in bloom here (first flower is female)

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It's kind of a weird time of year to be leafing out. The parent plant is leafless but fruity, end of season look.
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Jan 20, 2024 8:59 PM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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They all look great! Lovey dubby
My Jatropha podagrica is still in the leaf dropping stage, but it is budding.
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Jan 21, 2024 9:20 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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They do look great! My neighbor pruned their crown of thorns and gave me some cuttings:
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They have these as hedge and always full of bees but they didn't see any hummingbirds on these.

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©by Gigi Adenium Plumeria "Gardening is my favorite pastime. I grow whatever plant that catches my attention. I also enjoy hand pollinating desert roses.”
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Jan 23, 2024 2:45 PM CST
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That is a wonderful plant for the space and very colorful.

New growth and old growth on two Euphorbias here.

I have this plant as avasmontana, the first 3 heads look like they might be waking up

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Here are two of the branches that it produced over the summer and fall (now done growing for the season)

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So that would be 2 disjunct growth spurts for different branches, kind of weird.

This is fruticosa, main stem and side branches:

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Much more active below.
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Jan 24, 2024 3:49 PM CST
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I have this as E. meloformis... due for a depupping soon, I think. (4" pot)

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It's (they're) a girl!

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Jan 24, 2024 6:59 PM CST
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The aforementioned avasmontana (best I can guess, since it hasn't flowered), limited by its 12" pot.

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This plant going in the ground in the near future, where it has the potential to grow large. I got it years ago as a small seedling in a 4" pot.
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Jan 30, 2024 6:41 AM CST
Name: TJOE
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This E. Fruticosa, the 3rd generations are trying to push the 2nd generation out, let's see how they will end.
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Feb 3, 2024 3:42 AM CST
Name: TJOE
Indonesia
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Can someone help me to check if this is E. Unispina?
One seller sells it at half of the market price, plus 2.2 special date campaign, I got it at 1/3 of the market price. When I got such a good bargain, I started to question my own judgement Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 3, 2024 7:52 AM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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I have no idea what this is, but I love the nice caudex and leaf form. Lovey dubby
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Feb 3, 2024 12:25 PM CST
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It is unispina or a close relative. There are about 4 West African Euphorbias in the ballpark, and the differences in appearance are not obvious (to me anyway), but they all seem to behave roughly the same in cultivation.

Strongly seasonal growth pattern (here). I never withhold water completely (even when completely leafless) and I provide no protection from the winter rain. But I do water twice as often during spring-summer when they are most active). So I water them like most Pachypodiums, Adenium, Plumeria, other highly seasonal Euphorbias.

You will have to see how the plant behaves in your very different climate, which is much closer to the native climate where the plant is from.

Extremely toxic sap, avoid contact. The species that seems closest to unispina (to me anyway) is venenifica, and that species name comes from the fact that the plant was used for poison making in the area of origin, to kill animals or whatever. These plants are (oddly enough) closely related to the very different looking (but also quite toxic) resinifera, from North Africa.
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Feb 3, 2024 6:24 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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Thank you, another one that is even more expensive, similar looking, usually in the form of variegation, E. Poissonii. In Bangkok also expensive. Until now I haven't find that one.
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Feb 3, 2024 7:52 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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The baby obesa is trying to show off, boys or girls? Still a very young and small plant, in 2 inch pot, so the diameter is less than 1 inch. Not sure if the flower will bloom to its perfect form, it is just too small.
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Feb 4, 2024 11:21 AM CST
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The first few cyathia tend to fall before the sex parts develop, at least that is my experience.

Just guessing by the shape there, it seems like the plant is not getting enough light. It should be as wide as tall when it is that size, given lots of sun.

Plant in 4 inch pot here:

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Feb 4, 2024 8:20 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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I see, I have limited to no direct sunlight from Sept to January, only recently the plants started to have direct light till the max exposure in June July.
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Feb 5, 2024 1:03 PM CST
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Well, work with what you've got, of course, just be aware the plant is sensitive to excess moisture given low light conditions. So continue with the good care you've been giving it, and keep it out of the rain, everything should be fine.
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Feb 5, 2024 1:35 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I wonder if there is natural variation in the form of E. obesa. The one I purchased under that name was as conical as it was obese. Since I've had it, it's position while growing could only be considered full sun and it has retained a shape very similar to TJOEs plant. Mine also put out four growths. I thought it was bloom, but two of those have turned into what look like arms - fat arms, but still arms. So I've wondered if it may be a hybrid of some sort. First photo was how it looked when I bought in February '23. The last two were taken mid Sept after the brutal summer began to relent. It grew in spite of that summer. The two green appendages have grown - mostly fatter - subsequent to the photos. The one longer growth at the top is dead along with another that did that and has fallen off. I just expected a bit of fat growth, not the extras. I would have preferred more globular growth, but I do like it as is. I don't see how the growth it did could be etoliated. Not much more light I could give it except some that would be really hot noon hour sun. I had to move a lot of cacti out of that this summer and was too late on a couple.
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Feb 5, 2024 1:50 PM CST
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Definitely a hybrid, probably with another species in the same group, which often has spines derived from peduncles. The shape, the long-lasting primordial leaves (in growth), the peduncle, and the basal branching suggest this to me. It could be a hybrid of a hybrid for that matter (like 3/4 obesa) because it is very similar to the species.

One of the charming things about plants in this group (eg. obesa, valida, meloformis, mammillaris, bupleurifolia, polygona, etc.) is they tend to hybridize with each other, given proximity and time, especially because they are (usually) unisexual, thus requiring another individual of the opposite sex to be in bloom simultaneously to produce pure seed.
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Feb 5, 2024 1:56 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Thanks Baja. I kind of expected that it was when those arms showed up. Actually, I thought it grew too much for obesa. My understanding was that they were slow to grow. Guess I need to alter the way I have the photos tagged.

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