Adeniums forum: dormant or not/temp's it can handle

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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Oct 18, 2012 4:45 AM CST
My DR has been through a lot tis summer i almost lost it.If anyone remember's my plant was left out in the rain 3 days.It lost all of it's sucker roots and was shrinking and getting mushy.
Well it has bloomed and has buds now as does my other one.I thought they would be going dormant now since they are outside, not blooming.Our nights have gotten down to 40 degree's at least once or twice but is mainly staying in the 50's at night,days are staying between 70 & 80 degree's.

I've heard some hold off on water & let it go dormant.Does the plant do that itself ?Should i keep it in sun & watered maybe watered less.But it has buds?

Advice please on what i need to do with them this time of year or in the cold.I live in Ga.,meaning our weather is unpredictable & could stay in the 70's until dec. or Jan. Confused Thumb of 2012-10-18/jojoe/bc4e24

My other plant has a discoloration on the top leaves anyone know what causes this?Thumb of 2012-10-18/jojoe/966df0
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Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Oct 19, 2012 12:14 PM CST
Anyone smoke cigarettes? The discoloration might be tobacco leaf virus. The plant won't do quite as well, but it'll be OK if you feed it well. Virus is permanent, and spread by aphids and other sucking insects.

Adeniums are tropical plants. They are very unhappy at less than 55 degrees. If they are dryish, chillier can be tolerated. Yes, water less. Days are getting short, also. They like hot sunshine. I know of a fellow in northern Brazil who's plants thrive in 105 degree heat.

I would bring them inside.

Blooming plants don't need as much water as plants that are actively growing stems. Actually, blooming is considered dormant by some folks. You shouldn't need to force them into dormancy.

Any other opinions out there?
Name: Deborah Pryor
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Deebie
Oct 19, 2012 1:18 PM CST
I agree with Melissa. Bring them in. I accidentally left one of mine out and temps got into the upper 40's for a couple of nights with daytime temps of upper 60's. The leaves look terrible, but the plant is fine. It's a good thing it was dry, or it wouldn't have turned out as well.
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Shannon
Oct 19, 2012 1:58 PM CST
Thanks for asking this question JoJoe. I'm also a new Adenium parent Lovey dubby You would think my house had
a revolving door LOL They all come in at night if it's going to be below 50 and go back out once it reaches 65. Everyday Rolling on the floor laughing
My older ones are getting flower buds like yours but,my tiny ones are loosing leaves. Blinking
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Oct 19, 2012 3:16 PM CST
Hi Jelinda! I would bring it indoors now if it is already hitting low 40's in your area at night. I did that last year, and I took it in mid Fall, but since it was quite a milder winter later on, it did not really drop all the leaves, but just the same I have started to water less and less, till no watering at all come winter.. It came back good the following late Spring. Sometimes the plant itself will drop all of its leaves, and it should still be fine, it is in dormancy stage. I just placed it near my sunniest window and left it alone.

For now my adeniums are still outdoors, we still go 50's and above at night, so still okay. But may reconsider next week, it seems we have some rain in the forecast.
Name: Doris Klene
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kareoke
Oct 20, 2012 6:06 AM CST
Mine have all been inside for a month and some are still blooming, some need to be trimmed back, should I do that now or wait unfil next spring
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jimsned2
Oct 20, 2012 11:38 AM CST
Hi Doris; I'm thinking about trimming a few of mine also, so reply's to your question will interest me. I'd bet it's different strokes for different folks tho. In the deep south I think I can get away with trimming just about anytime, while those with a colder winter might have to wait till spring. Thumb of 2012-10-20/jimsned2/3521ab

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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Oct 20, 2012 2:33 PM CST
Last year mine went dormant itself once i brought it inside & slowly held back on watering but it didn't bloom last year because i had taken from a girl who works in an office & the plant was a gift,she was taking it to the dumpster thinking it had died.It stayed dormant all winter but came out nicely and i let go dormant last winter but it wasn't even close to being as healthy as it is now.The one with the leaf discoloration is a new one purchased this summer,this is the 2nd time it's bloomed this summer if the buds open.

So bring them in from the cold.Some people say to slowly keep out of sun,give less water until only enough to keep alive,totally ignore,it'll drop all leaves & go completely dormant.Then do exact opposite so plant will break dormancy in time for spring and it's growing season.Then some say water less,keep in at lest indirect sun & don't let plant go dormant over winter.Which way is best for my plants?

Melissa when you asked about smoking i don't but they are outside and what would have to happen for them to get that because the hubby does smoke??

they are officially house plants again Hurray! Hurray! but are they going to end up in my bedroom so people don't think i have dead plants sitting out in the living room Lovey dubby Rolling on the floor laughing Whistling
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tarev
Oct 20, 2012 3:36 PM CST
I think they are cute even when dormant and without leaves especially if it has that very chubby base Big Grin If you want decorate it with little ribbons once all the leaves falls off so it does not appear boring to your eyes. Beauty needs its rest Smiling
Name: Jim Cook
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jimsned2
Oct 20, 2012 4:43 PM CST
Heck, I smoke like a chimney and it doesn't seem to bother my plants! I'm not bragging about smoking just trying to make the point that it doesn't matter as far as desert rose goes. I wish I could stop but I can't. My Dr. age 58 who would blame a broken leg on smoking suddenly died last month. Anyway, I wouldn't let your husbands smoking figure into your Adenium care.
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kareoke
Oct 21, 2012 6:19 AM CST
Well my plants never lose their leaves, I bring them in whet it starts getting cold, they are in a room that is mostly glass, so the room is bright, and I keep the temp in the 70s, they lose a couple of leaves at first but thats it,
Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Oct 21, 2012 8:11 AM CST
I have decided to leave this one up to the plants.I have brought them in & i always have more plants in the fall then i did in the spring.So i found them both a spot to sit so i can watch to see what the buds are going to do.If they go dormant i hope they have a nice rest,if they don't then that's ok to.

Tarev you gave me a great idea.If the short one that has all the stems goes dormant,my grandson can have his own tree to decorate during the holidays!!!!
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lourspolaire
Oct 21, 2012 9:36 AM CST
Picking up on Jim's train of thought: I smoke 7-inch cigars 8 feet away from my adeniums, 2 or 3 times/week when time allows. There is nothing I like more than generating a large greyish-blue cloud that slowly drifts away from me on days where the wind is basically calm. The philodendrons, the anthuriums, the orchids and the adeniums have never shown any sign of distress associated with my guilty pleasure. I am not trying to turn this thread into a pro-smoking forum, but my nicotine fumes seem to have as much influence on the health of my plants as does the position of Saturn relative to the moon.

Let's just face it: adeniums are temperamental divas and drama queens. I have learned to live with it. When one of mine decides to drop all its leaves, I encourage it to drop everything, up to the last leaf. Then, when it realizes it gives me no grief, it quickly sprouts new leaves and carries on. Gotta love adeniums - and cigar smokers.

Take care, all.
Sylvain.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Oct 22, 2012 12:14 PM CST
I have no problem with folks smoking. I'm just happy that I never got started.

Adeniums from Arabia, arabicum, have larger caudexes and do like to go dormant. obseums, from central Africa above the Congo Jungle lattitude are what we mostly have, and don't need to go dormant. But there are arabicum/obseum crosses that either do or don't go dormant. Just water less and let the plant decide. Then along about March, start watering more, and feeding. We need an Adenium sprcific fertilizer!!

I have several plants that are grafted onto arabicum rootstock, and I don't like the influence at all!! Less flowering, and smallet top growth, it seems. I MUS learn grafting!! I feel so sure of what I am doing, then the graft rots after a week or two. Owell, someday... I keep trying!

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