Lestv said:I really like the color blends on 16, 20 and 26.

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Totally_Amazing said:My Impulsive 23 Seedling reminded me of Dancing Home
My Seedling

https://wiki.irises.org/TbAthr...
The falls on Rum and Coke are a closer match.

I like this one.

Robin: Here is a shot of my Holy Kosmoly this spring that shows a bit more of the variations in it's blooms. Which is why it reminded me of your broken color. Especially the one on the left.

I can definitely see the similarities. They are too similar for me to want to have both in my garden. Holy Kosmoly has nice form. I like the yellow beard with the pale lavender tip on my seedling.

Richard

The last seedling I wish to share with everyone is from my older Ibiza x Silver Streak cross, the first cross in this thread. It's my first ever orange seedling and I love the colour but the falls curl under

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Ibiza 24



Is this a plicata? I can see a rim on the falls but not the standards. There aren't many orange plicatas around so I will keep this one as a potential future parent.

Well that's a surprise color from those two. I wouldn't call it a plicata, more of a lighter wash on the falls, but then I'm not an expert on plicatas. Do you know if there are any plicatas in their ancestry?

What a pretty orange space ager. Maybe you could re-cross to improve the form?

I like the tip on your broken iris seedling's beard too.

Silver Streak is a plicata x (broken colour x plicata). The pollen parent of Ibiza is a (plicata x complicated parentage nearly all plicatas) x sibling.
I think you are right Tom. My seedling looks more like a blend. There are probably enough plicatas in its ancestry to create one if I crossed it with another plicata.

Leslie. I would like to create a better version of it. I need to search for something nice with good form to cross it with.

Good results, Robin !:hurray: : hurray:

Welcome Robin.

This year a few more of my Ballet Performance x Toucan Tango seedlings bloomed. They are siblings to these seedlings in last year's post.

Totally_Amazing said: everyone for your feedback .

This year was the maiden bloom season for another cross I made in 2017 between Ballet Performance and Toucan Tango

• Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Ballet Performance')
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• Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Toucan Tango')
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My goal was to create a broken pattern in yellow or pink tones. I ended up with 3 plicatas.

Ballet Performance #2.

The aged blooms are floppy


Ballet Performance #3. This iris was attacked by snails and was floppy too.



Ballet Performance #17. There is purple and reddish purple on the banding on the falls.
With it's pod parent Ballet Performance on the left, my seedling on the right

I think these seedlings are rejects and I am just posting them to continue the story for anyone who wants to see what the parentage produced.

Ballet Performance #9



Ballet Performance #14
I was hoping for something red when I saw this bud




Ballet Performance #15



Ballet Performance #18
The stem on this seedling was twisty and very weak.

I do like them. They remind me of cultivars that would've been introduced in the 70s-80s.

You're 40 years too late

Thanks for sharing, Robin. I have been reading up on plicata genetics recently and I think Chuck Chapman is close to the mark with his observations and hypotheses about plicatas and their relatives (luminatas and glaciatas):

https://www.hort.net/lists/iri...

If he is right about broken colours in this instance, then your cross makes sense - all the seedlings will be in the plicata group (plicatas, luminatas, luminata-pliacatas and the odd glaciata). Depending on how many copies of the plicata gene 'Ballet Performance' has, the odds of producing a broken colour (if Chuck is right) from should be non-zero as long as BP does not have four copies of the pl gene (since then you cannot get the pl pla pla plu or pl plu plu pla combinations hypothesised as the cause of broken colour).

Of course, that assumes that broken colour is solely controlled by the combination of plicata, luminata and glaciata genes.

#9 is intriguing. Does it have any anthocyanin on it at all? I'd hold on to it for a bit, just in case it's a glaciata.

#14 looks like it might be a luminata-plicata, although knowing exactly what combination of pl and plu genes it carries can't be determined without test crosses.

Thanks for you feedback Joshua. After a quick read about iris genetics I will try to respond.

My seedlings have finished flowering and I can't pull #9 apart to check for anthocyanin. This is the best photo I can find.

It might be a glaciata.

#14 is different to all the irises I currently have. I like the reddish tones. I think it may make an interesting parent.

Thanks, Robin.

I'd hold onto both #9 and #14, at least for the time being. You can inspect #9 again next year to confirm if it's a glaciata. If it is, you can use it in crosses with luminatas and plicatas to produce more of each, as well as more glaciatas.

I would suggest crossing one or more of these seedings back to Toucan Tango or another broken color iris. I like the color of #14, but it might not have the hidden glaciata genes. #9 looks like it might have glaciata genes, but it also apparently lacks the darker pigment genes, which are generally dominant.

I think good form & growth are 2 of the most difficult traits to get, especially on TBs. Good luck with all of your crosses.

good job robin. this cross may not have produced exactly what you were lookin for, but as daisy and joshua suggest, your idea may only be a generation away with a cross back? that's exciting and testing your fortitude for patience.