Growing Pains

By valleylynn
January 1, 2010

A plant clinic for Sempervivum, Jovibarba and J. heuffelii. This is a companion article for the Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum.

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Jun 10, 2010 3:02 PM CST
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Boy, these chicks (hanging down) sure look fasciated to me.... What do you think?

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Jun 10, 2010 3:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
A closer shot.

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Jun 10, 2010 3:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Another chick in the same clump - this one standing upright.

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Jun 10, 2010 4:02 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Well how strange is that? It certainly does look fasciated. Where is twit?
Wonder if it is one of those damage things again. It's not on the same plants you had the winter damage on is it? Sure is interesting. Which one is it?
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Jun 10, 2010 9:26 PM CST

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Snoring... zzzzzzz......
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Jun 10, 2010 10:13 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
twit, wake up. I hear you snoring. Big Grin
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Jun 11, 2010 1:28 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Time to get up Twit! Rise and shine! Hilarious!

No, it's not the same ones that had winter damage. This is just a noid. I'm going to leave them and see what happens.
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Jun 11, 2010 4:08 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Keep taking pictures Chris. Wonder if they will produce fasciated chicks?
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Jun 11, 2010 4:40 PM CST

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Fasciated and other odd growing plants are valuable oddities. Please take care of that one - even if it is a no id at this point, if the pattern continues and reproduces, you could have something worth naming. Perhaps you've got Sempervivum 'Chris's Peculiarity' growing... Blinking
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Jun 11, 2010 5:41 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I'm liking that name twit. Let me know when it's official so I can add it to the database. Big Grin
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Jun 12, 2010 7:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Rolling on the floor laughing Chris's Peculiarity! I like that! I have several hens of that variety producing those chicks, so I will definitely give them extra TLC.
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Jun 12, 2010 8:16 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Hurray! Oh wow, we have a 'Mad Scientist' in the Cubit. Rolling on the floor laughing
I am so excited seeing their progress Chris. Thumbs up How interesting it will be to see if they produce chicks, and if the fasciated hens will flower.
I have a fasciated lewisia and it will never bloom again. It bloomed for years before sending out all the fasciated leaves.

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Jun 12, 2010 8:35 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
That looks pretty cool! I've had fasciated lilies, but they were only that way for one year.
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Jun 12, 2010 11:17 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
The lewisia is permanent, but it does have one pup coming off of it that appears to be normal.
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Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Some fasciation is caused by a virus, or other damage, and some plants certainly are more prone to it. Interesting!
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Jul 10, 2010 6:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I've tried to take special care of these, but the fasciated chicks seem to be drying up. I will keep an eye on the hen to see if it produces any more like this.
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Jul 10, 2010 8:01 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Oh no, I am so sorry to hear that Chris. I was looking forward to them becoming a mature odd plant.
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Jul 10, 2010 3:12 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I know - me too!
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Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM CST
Name: Louise
East Texas, zones 7b/8a
Garden Ideas: Level 1
Interesting..... please explain 'fasciated' - for a gardener trying to learn how to
grow lots and lots of these plants for a wreath (I already have the form !). I
realize that goal may be years..?????... in the future. Sad

Louise
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Jul 22, 2010 4:53 PM CST

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Simply put, fasciation is when one or more growing parts of the plant get damaged or go off program to produce abnormal plant structures, typically enlarged and/or flattened from the normal.

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