Plant Database forum: Fortunella/Kumqat.

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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 4:13 AM CST
First i entered Kumquat in search and got this:-
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=kumquat
Found out that there is a Daylily also with the name Kumqat but it did not solve my purpose. Then I entered Fortunella and got this:-
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=fortunella
Problem is, where do I put this?
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Now I have another problem, where to fit this?
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If I enter into search Orange I get every thing with the name or colour orange and if I enter Citrus I get this:-
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=citrus&submit=Sea...
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jan 2, 2013 10:06 AM CST
Look at this link at ITIS for Kumquat, Arif. http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt

And this one for oranges: http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt

The kumquat won't be that difficult to narrow down, but the orange might be a problem. Blinking
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wildflowers
Jan 2, 2013 11:33 AM CST
Hi Arif, here's another link for kumquat - information and varieties.

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/kumquat.html#Varie...


Good luck.
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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 11:58 AM CST
Blinking Why no dump site for these Confused Lynn they graft on local variety of roots (Pakistani) maybe the grafted top twig comes from abroad. This changes things a little bit should it not? What will happen when I try to post the picture of a local variety of Grapefruit that I have? Our Grapefruit is not sweet but is quite sour and is used as a medicine by obese persons to cut body fat and known as Chakkotra. Then they go and import some twigs from abroad and graft it onto the Chakkotra roots, I think that should influence the shape of the end product. Now, how am I supposed to match the ID of the Local end product to that on the net Confused
In the case of Rose and things like that I can get away because we also graft on to Brier which is standard practice.
After a lot of notes Lovey dubby from zuzu I tip my hat to you. at least I should be able to make out by now what is going on, then I have to request her to move it to a dump. Jujube, Morus, etc and I have not as yet entered Pomegranates, that will be another story.
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 2, 2013 12:16 PM CST
Do they have a Parent Plant to put unknown varieties in?

The fruit on the grafted limb would be known as whatever the graft came from.
We have two apple trees that produce 3 types of apples on each tree. Golden Delicious, Rome and Jonathan on one. Gravenstein, and two other varieties that I don't know the name of.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 12:54 PM CST
Sorry Christine we cross posted but I think I have tried to explain that the root stock also plays a crucial role. Now this will go out an hour late Crying power cuts, another joy Shrug! . Just on a side note, there used to be a song, very popular in its hay days and still does bring a tear to ones eye, "Don't cry for me Argentina". What memories that brings back.
Genus: South Asia, Species: Dynastic politics, subs. Banana, cultivar: Republic. Shrug! Find that.
Palliatives: Passiflora, Chamomile, Belladonna, Aconitum Whistling
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 1:08 PM CST
Now that is the deep end of botany. I don't know about that but in the Northern areas(Pakistan) the root stock is different, here different and down South different. The local names are also different. Sorry Lynn, I don't know but there has to be some fruit grafting expert on ATP in some corner, maybe he can answer it better. The problem is that you all have taken it one level up, here Kumqat is a Kamqat, not exactly true but then I only grow maybe the ones specialising in Citrus here can reel of names. Citrus farmers mostly then nursery trade. I will also check up in the morning. Sorry about cross posting but can not do much.
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jan 2, 2013 3:41 PM CST

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KAMasud said:If I enter into search Orange I get every thing with the name or colour orange and if I enter Citrus I get this:-
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=citrus&submit=Sea...


Arif, you want to select Click here to view all plants in the genus: citrus. in blue at the top. You get this.
http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/genus/citrus/

Here are the parent and general entries for Orange and Kumquat.
Citrus


Would you like me to add your plants to these entries?
Evan
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 2, 2013 4:01 PM CST
Thank you Evan, I neglected to give Arif that information. *Blush*
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eclayne
Jan 2, 2013 4:05 PM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
Evan
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 9:41 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. and I will forget until it becomes second nature. Thank you Evan I knew I was doing some thing wrong but just could not put my finger on it. Instead of clicking your link I opened the database up and Oh, well, I found it myself.
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jan 2, 2013 9:51 PM CST

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Evan
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 10:53 PM CST
I will put them up myself as to the when, I don't know Shrug! lazy I suppose Thumbs up
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
Native Plants and Wildflowers I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
KAMasud
Jan 2, 2013 11:34 PM CST
One thing leads to another. Came across Citron, searched it up and found out it grows wild over here Confused . If I am not wrong this is the rootstock for our Citrus. Why? Some times new gardeners cut of the graft by mistake, with the result that you are either left with Citron or some kind of wild small citrus which is so sour that it is impossible to eat.
http://www.trekhimachal.com/newsite/food-and-drink/khatta
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
Native Plants and Wildflowers I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
KAMasud
Jan 3, 2013 12:55 AM CST
That small citrus impossible to eat Confused
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamondin
It seems the world should be grateful to Asia for Citrus. Bev you can't take that away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomelo
http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/limes.html
http://eol.org/pages/2948398/overview Here the Genus has started to move around.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Citroncirus+webberi
Trying to find which root stock or basic thing underlies has started to turn into either a story book or a fairy tale. All the above seem to grow wild and I never even once considered or gave them importance.
Let the weather warm up so that my metabolic rate rises then I will go after all of them and the fun with the database will start. I have seven kinds and one has purplish kind of flower and the fruit can go more then a Kg in size about or larger then a grapefruit but not a grapefruit.
Regards,
Arif.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jan 3, 2013 9:15 AM CST
Hurray!

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