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Jan 7, 2013 6:28 PM CST
central Illinois
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That last aurelian is something assuredly.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Jan 7, 2013 6:54 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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Great show, much enjoyed. Thank you so much for posting pictures of it.
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Jan 7, 2013 10:59 PM CST
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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
I'm glad. Smiling If only we could deliver 'smell-over-internet' too.

Lorn, that first trumpet was also a contender for champion stem. From memory (sorry if I'm incorrect), it's a seedling from Ned Bligh's 'Stowport Elegance'. Ned is a lily breeder from Stowport on Tasmania's Northwest Coast. He's registered a range of lovely trumpets and has contributed lots of seed from his bloodlines to the North-west Tasmanian Lilium Society seed bank, from which I just purchased some seeds of similar background to the one pictured.

Perhaps if yourself or anyone is interested, I could pick up a range of Ned's seed in a few weeks, and post them on. Message me if you're interested.

Just a few more pics! A few of the floral art entries from the weekend:
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Jan 7, 2013 11:15 PM CST
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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
And finally... lewisias! Irene and Neil Jordan presented a rainbow display of beautiful lewisias raised from seed:

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Jan 8, 2013 3:32 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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Some brilliant examples there ,Della Thumbs up
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Jan 8, 2013 4:38 AM CST
Name: Calin
Weston-super-mare UK (Zone 7b)
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Wow Della,
When are we gonna have such a show here in... Romania?
Where should I start?
All pretty, but I love these L davidii, wardii, the fat pink long. hybrid, the gorgeous martagon and the aurelians...
There's a lot missing from my garden :)


Della... I'm cheeky, but if you ever have any seeds...let me know. We'll find a way to make us both happy.
When I read the word "seeds" especially on the lily forum, some "bulbs" light up somewhere! Whistling
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Jan 8, 2013 9:14 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Hilarious!
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Jan 8, 2013 10:00 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
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Those would be Lewisia cotyledon forms. Very nice and pretty easy to grow, given their basic needs.

I have Lewisia cotyledon seedlings, too, that will probably bloom in 2013, but my really cool babies will be the Lewisia rediviva seedlings.

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Jan 8, 2013 11:49 AM CST
Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
Region: California Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Ponds Seed Starter
Dellac:

Love the last photo posted Jan 7 under "Single Flowers of trumpets and aurelian". It looks like its might be crossed with Lady Alice. Do you know the name?

Hope you didn't have any problem with the fire that's been on the news.
Thanks
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Jan 8, 2013 8:28 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Thanks for the info. Della. I grow one quite similar here. The color interaction at the crack of dawn reminds me of eary dawn desert hues. I think I'll pass on the seeds for now. I've got my schedules all drawn up for next year and mostly the next after. But that's nice to know and I do appreciate your offer.

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Jan 9, 2013 4:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
No problem - that's a lovely trumpet, Lorn.

Mnorberry, from memory the flower was staged simply as 'aurelian hybrid'. I wish I knew more... it's certainly a stand-out that I'd love to grow!

I grew a few Lewisia cotyledon varieties briefly many years ago, (when I had an obsession for drystone walling Hilarious! ), but never from seed. They look like fascinating babies. What type of gravel medium are you using to raise them, Rick?

Aha, fixpix! I might be able to find something in the NWTLS seed bank in a few weeks time. Green Grin!

And Anthony - I might just have ONE stem for this weekend... one small stem... but it's one better than nothing Thumbs up

Looking forward to Claremont!
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Jan 9, 2013 6:42 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Della, I've been thinking about running that one back thru L. davidii and then back again. What do think? I'll have to see what the bud count is this year but if it's less than six or seven I might just go for it.
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Jan 9, 2013 10:01 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Hey, look what came up when I googled "northwest tasmanian lily society":

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Della, you're famous !!!
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Jan 9, 2013 10:31 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Della,
I thought I had a pic of Lewisia cotyledon seedlings, too, but can't find it. Much better looking as seedlings, IMO, since they sit with broad leaves tucked in the grit and don't get the look of lankiness. I had planted both species in mid winter (different years) and put outside to benefit from the natural elements. Lewisia rediviva emerged the following spring, but Lewisia cotyledon didn't come up until the following spring a year later. I'd say both had equal germination percentages. I am sure it is not unusual for L. cotyledon to take 2 years, but I don't think it is the norm, either.

The gravel you see is #2 granite grit, about 5mm size. It is a surface layer of about 8mm above the alpine medium. Seeds were surface sown with the grit on top. The medium is two thirds mineral based (sand with various sized granite grits), and about one third good grade potting soil.
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Jan 9, 2013 6:24 PM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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I'm free, to make a start, on The Claremont show... Have just put myself into overdrive..1 stem is better than no stem, Della,.,People will be at the hall from 8.30 am Friday[If you need a bit of time to bench the stem] Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! ..If you are available at all on Friday, a good benching steward on hand, would be an asset. Blinking ,..,.,.So! now the fun begins!..I hope to be able to put up some pics come Monday!-Adios! Thumbs up
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Jan 10, 2013 12:27 AM CST
Name: Calin
Weston-super-mare UK (Zone 7b)
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Hehehe, Rick... that print doesn't show which page you are on.
Kidding...I'm sure it's the first.

So there's a show tomorrow? Now I got the "one stem" Della mentioned.
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Jan 10, 2013 2:20 AM CST
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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Wait... wait... you mean... Confused ...is your stem is kinda ...leafy... with an 's' kink half way up?? Blinking And yellow flowers? And ants? Blinking Blinking Dr. Freud!! Dr. Freud! Emergency!!!

Oh, dear lord. Google monster will enshrine this forever. I don't usually attach my real name to anything I say online... I fear a terrible line has just been crossed.

But for the sake of spreading seed and the love of lilies! nodding


Thanks Rick - I'm rather interested in finding a better potting medium for sowing lily seeds. I gather granite underpins the native geomorpholgy for many Lewisia - have you tried it with lily seed too? The coarse river sand I've used over recent years is predominantly plain quartzite, and hasn't really been satisfactory. I've been told a granite would give better results because of its ability to wick moisture [among other things - I imagine it has a better mineral potential too, but I'm (obviously Big Grin ) not a geologist - I just mine for information Big Grin ] A knowledgable friend has attempted to explain these things but... be good to also hear something more from the 'results' end of the scale.

Lorn, you're talking about your trumpet?(not... I repeat not, fixpix's stem!) I haven't bred trumpets, so don't have any experience - I was wondering if you meant L. regale rather than L. davidii? The Elegance seedlings certainly have a high bud count, but whether that's due to their Regal grand- and great-grandparents, I wouldn't know....

Though if you do mean to cross it out to L. davidii for the high bud count and infloresence... and back again... Drooling I'd love to see the babies if such a cross is possible!! I mean... I know if others have have succeeded in creating asiapets, it must be possible. They have the loveliest flower form!

Right - friday. Unless something dire happens, Anthony, I think I can be out there tomorrow afternoon to help with benching/stewarding and any other odd things. Though not too odd. Angry

Hilarious!
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Jan 10, 2013 3:04 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Oh, Lorn - just a second thought.

I'd be tempted to try L. pumilum varieties 'Yellow Bunting' or 'Golden Gleam' instead... some little stored trivia has L. pumilum and its varieties down as the secret to Judith Freeman's success. (One of the many, I'm sure!). Despite being diminutive, it reportedly creates hybrids of great stature and bud count.

Results could be very different if using L. davidii just once as an outcross, but working with successive generations of L. davidii hybrids, I've found the orange and spotting to be very persistent. I can't imagine either would accentuate the lovely clean contrast of your lily. Not that seedlings wouldn't be pretty... they'd just be further from the character of your original, I think? L. davidii var. unicolor could be another option, but it's hard to find a good example - the ones I've seen tend to be rather 'looser', more willowy plants, with correspondingly less tight flower form....

(I have to add, I really don't feel qualified to comment, just passing on the thoughts and feelings that arise from this complete jumble of information that sometimes passes for 'knowledge' in my brain. ie.... I half remember a bit of everything, and then it recombines at high temperatures into weird, fantastical chimeras that have little relationship to reality or fact. Some days it's kind of fun. Obviates the need for recreational drugs Green Grin! )
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Jan 10, 2013 4:41 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
Plant and/or Seed Trader Hellebores Birds Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Art Cat Lover
..Lets leave the 'Odd',.,.,.Described to me , the chances of meeting a lady in ,'The South Pole'...The odds are good- but the goods are odd!!!.. Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! ,.,Thanks for the Info D,.See you tomorrow.,. Thumbs up
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Jan 10, 2013 5:50 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Della, you have a creative mind and an admirable vocabulary! Have a great show and we'll await for update posts.

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