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Apr 20, 2021 7:01 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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I did a bit of browsing on advice on how to sow Hellebore seeds and apparently there are a lot of different approaches, including some that are completely opposite to how I do it - so I guess each of you can experiment and find what works best for you.
However, as bought seeds are usually a bit on the steep side, here is what I do (I'm in a zone with winter temps. usually between -15 and +5 C, but most often on the milder side of that and summer temps. between 15-30 C. ). This is not the only way to successfully grow Hellebores from seeds, but I have found it to be both easy and reliable:

1) Always use fresh seeds if possible. I only buy seeds from nurseries specialising in Hellebores and only when the fresh seeds are available in fall/early winter. If you can't get fresh seeds, you will most likely need to give the seeds several cold/warm cycles to get (less) germination, but it is definitely possible.

2) If you harvest your own seeds (bee pods or otherwise) you need to be very vigilant and keep an eye on the ripening pods or they will drop their seeds before you get a chance to harvest them - you might want to use organza bags or similar if those seeds are important to you. The seeds are ripe when they turn dark brown or black, sometimes you can be lucky and spot when the pod starts to split at the top and that's usually the right time to get them. If (like me Whistling ) you are not the patient type, you can try gently squeezing the almost ripe pods to see if they give. Wear gloves!

3) If you harvested your own seeds, let them dry out for a week or two (up to a month in a shady place should not be a problem) and then sow them - if you bought seeds sow them as soon as you receive them.

4) Several of the sites I looked at before writing this recommend just lightly covering the seeds. In my experience this is not a good idea. Hellebore seeds do not need light to germinate and they do not (!) like to dry out while trying to germinate. When I first researched how best to sow hellebores I read somewhere that the fastest way to kill the seeds is to give them 'a shallow grave'. So I cover them in about 0.5-1 inch of seed mix or fine grit. Shallow sowing can work, but it takes an extra effort on part of the gardener to keep them moist and as germination can take all winter that is a lot of effort that could have been better spent.

5) Water and put in a damp/shady place outside until spring if you live in a zone with cold winters or, if you're in a warmer zone (with winter temps. above 5C) give the seedling pot(s) a month or two in the fridge around mid-winter and then put them back outside.

6) A thing I like about Hellebore seedlings is that they are much sturdier than most other seedlings, so prickling them out is a breeze. I grow them on in small individual pots for at least a year or two, but if you have a (new) bed with no competition, you can plant them out after their first summer.

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Seed tray. Recycled grape container. The lid helps keep moisture in and the creatures out.

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First year seedlings (Pardon the mess, I've not gotten around to cleaning out the potting shed yet. Whistling )

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2nd and 3rd year seedlings

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3rd year H. niger seedling.


OK, that ended up a lot longer than intended. Hope it helps! Crossing Fingers!
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Apr 20, 2021 8:41 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
@IrisLilli, Thank You! I've bookmarked your post. Its excellent! I tip my hat to you.
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Apr 20, 2021 10:02 AM CST
Northern NJ (Zone 7a)
The good thing about Tasmanian Select Hellebores is they start the stratification process for you. The seeds don't come dry. Seeds I've received dry were very hard if not impossible to germinate, even from people that collected them the same year. The few that did often held onto their seed coats. @hampartsum - it sounds like Argentina is like it was here 15 years ago or so when it was hard to get special hellebores.
Ashwood in the UK used to sell hellebore seeds internationally but I don't see mention on their website now.
https://www.ashwoodnurseries.c...
Lilli, why do you dry out your seeds for two months?
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Apr 21, 2021 2:17 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
I don't usually, but I sometimes tend to forget things and so I learn new stuff from time to time. Whistling Hilarious!

I still strongly recommend sowing them fresh!
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Apr 21, 2021 8:48 AM CST
Northern NJ (Zone 7a)
Ahh! That I get!
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Apr 21, 2021 7:32 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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Great info Lilli'


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Golden Lotus

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Blushing Bridesmaid

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Peppermint Ice

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Painted Doubles

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Midnight Ruffles

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Red Sapphire

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Maid of Honor

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Dark and Handsome
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Apr 21, 2021 7:33 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
Incredible Bob!
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Apr 21, 2021 7:46 PM CST
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
Lazy Gardener or Melonator
Beautiful, I like Dark and Handsome, but who doesn't?
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Apr 21, 2021 8:13 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
Aquarium Plants Bookworm Snakes Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Heucheras
Echinacea Hellebores Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Hostas Region: New Jersey
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A couple of overall pics of the Hellebore area , I added 5 more plants after pics were taken.
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Apr 21, 2021 11:46 PM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
NJBob said:

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Golden Lotus



Oh my! Lovey dubby
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Apr 22, 2021 5:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
SoCalGardenNut said:Beautiful, I like Dark and Handsome, but who doesn't?
We just need a Dark and Beautiful or Light and Beautiful lass to accompany this Dark and Handsome dude. Smiling Smiling

Wow, you grow a lot of hellebores, Bob! Are some of the above included your seedlings? I really like Painted Doubles, Maid of Honor, and both of the dark red ones. Of the two, Dark and Handsome and Red Sapphire, which do you like better?

Thank You! very much Lily for the advice on growing hellebores from seeds. I also bookmarked it to go back later in case I forget something.
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Apr 22, 2021 7:39 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
IrisLilli said:

Oh my! Lovey dubby



I I agree .... Sighing! ( whispering to myself... I must get seeds asap from reliable sources this coming season)...(coyly...any suggestions apart those already posted)

Arturo
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Apr 22, 2021 7:30 PM CST
Northern NJ (Zone 7a)
Beautiful collection, Bob! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Apr 22, 2021 8:00 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
Golden Lotus
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As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Apr 22, 2021 8:23 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
Aquarium Plants Bookworm Snakes Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Heucheras
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Thanks everyone. Red Sapphire to me is a nicer flower. But the best for me with a similar look has been Onyx Odyssey. Wish they were closer to a black color like New York Nights. Overall the Winter Jewel series have been faster growers then the Wedding series.
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Apr 23, 2021 7:55 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks, Bob!

Rj, Golden Lotus is a nice one! I really enjoy this hellebore in my garden.
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May 6, 2021 4:00 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
After all the wind and rain we had, I was finally able to get some images of my dark hellebores in bloom:



Close-up:
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Other dark ones:
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A little something interesting that showed up in my seedling pots:
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This is a seedling I grew from a packet of Ashwood Peach seeds. When I first noticed it 3 years ago, I simply assumed that there was something wrong with the plant and I gave it some extra TLC and forgot about it. Last year it was the same colour, so I started wondering if it might actually be a pale-leafed version and this year it looks just the same, so here is hoping that it keeps the colour when planted out. Crossing Fingers!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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May 6, 2021 5:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Beautiful dark hellebores! Your camera captures the color and shade nicely. Are any of the dark ones above your seedlings?
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May 6, 2021 11:10 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Thank You!

Other than the 'Slaty Blue' one, all of them are grown from seeds I bought. I have some dark crosses from my own garden growing in seedling pots, but it is too soon for them to bloom just yet.
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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May 6, 2021 11:19 AM CST
Northern NJ (Zone 7a)
Beautiful, Lilli! I have a peach hellebore. It has yellowish leaves too. I always assumed it is sickly. Even when I bought it, I hoped it would outgrow the pale color once I got it in the ground. But it keeps returning with its pale leaves and stems. Here the new growth is light green but it will get lighter. I cut off the yellow leaves before the flowers came up. It is rare to find a hellebore this color in the stores around here so I had to scoop it up no matter how healthy the leaves looked.

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