The Complete Guide to Seed Saving: An Article Containing Every Bit of Information That Could Possibly Be Useful

By joseph
January 17, 2013

While the title of this article may seem outrageous, the premise behind the promise is simple. We can grow our own seeds both for ourselves and for our communities. Seed saving is a simple process that is well within the capabilities of anyone who is able to grow a garden.

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Jan 23, 2013 1:14 PM CST
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Name: Caroline Scott
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I agree
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Jan 23, 2013 1:25 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Jan 24, 2013 1:43 PM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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Wheat is dreadfully unhealthy!!! For all of us, not just some. Believe it or not, see:

http://www.theatlantic.com/hea...
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Jan 24, 2013 6:44 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Well that is scary Melissa. I think I will give it a try, taking wheat out of my diet. It doesn't say anything about whole grain oats or rice.
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Jan 24, 2013 8:34 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Instead of saying that Crying you could have said I have a source who might be able to find a few seeds of the old wheat before they started this wheat/barley combination Blinking .
Mean mean Lynn Sticking tongue out
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Jan 24, 2013 10:23 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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*Blush* So sorry Arif, I forgot, you are from a land where the old plants are still around.
Nooooo, not mean, just forgetful. Sticking tongue out
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Jan 24, 2013 11:00 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Crying We are all getting old Sticking tongue out . I will try to find the seeds for the original variety of wheat then send it to my in laws who will forward them to you. That is why I asked them permission before taking the liberty. Now you get yesterdays story over which you were confused. Lynn, what was your blood sugar doing yesterday? Be careful plz.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:14 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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My blood sugar has been fine, no problems at all. Just the way things were worded was a little confusing.
I can't blame old age for my forgetfulness, it's been life long. Whistling
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Jan 25, 2013 8:22 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Wording, quite possible. When you speak, think, dream in different languages sometimes a literal translation occurs while writing. Sometimes things don't make sense to me either. When I am all alone, no problem.
Memory Whistling same here.
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Arif.
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Jan 31, 2013 10:39 AM CST
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The title was more curious than outrageous to me.
I am right there with you.
And I hate Monsanto.
It takes a serious infraction to make me hate.
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Jul 12, 2013 12:00 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
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Joseph,

I totally agree that real world genetics are a schmear of too many genes, gene complexes, interacting regulators and who-knows-what to be modeled accurately by ANY simple theory.

Most of the real world is like that: hugely more complex than anything you can hope to do in a laboratory.

My take is that "Mendellian genetics" are from the typical perspective of "Science".

Simplify what you're talking about SO much that you can talk about and experiment with something so specific that the results make sense, and you can write a paragraph in a text book that makes sense. And most of all: simple enough that you can construct a controlled experiment that is so repeatable that you can MEASURE something. It's not Science unless you can produce a table of repeatable numbers.

And they care a lot whether it really is like what's going on, under the hood. "Truth", or at least accuracy about some specific aspect of something.

If it is relevant and inclusive enough to useful in the real world, that's an unexpected bonus.

You and Darwin have more of an engineer's perspective:

"How do things work in the real world?"
"What can I do, and how can I think about it, to get useful things done?"
"I don't need to pretend to UNDERSTAND things, I just need to DO things."
"Workable approximations are fine."
"I'm not hunting for provable Cosmic Truth, I just want it to work."
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Nov 3, 2013 4:47 PM CST

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joseph said:I am currently working on developing a short-season cushaw/mixta squash. I figure that if I throw enough different kinds of mixta seed into the ground for enough years, that eventually something will survive long enough to produce offspring. Right now the only criteria for my mixta breeding project is: "Must produce seed". If that ever happens in my garden, then I can work on something like: "Must taste good"


Woo Hoo! After years of trying I was able to harvest a single Mixta squash fruit this fall. It had a few seeds inside it that look like normal viable seeds. I'm looking forward to seeing how the offspring do in my garden. The taste was acceptable to me. Definitely room for improvement.

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Nov 3, 2013 4:51 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Hurray! Joseph, that is great news. And what a beautiful squash. I hope you will keep us informed on how it does next year. Thumbs up
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Nov 4, 2013 5:47 AM CST
Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
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WooHoo! Hurray!
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