Lilies forum: Sprouting Early

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Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jan 22, 2013 4:42 PM CST
Anybody have lilies that have come up already? Here lots of my lilies have started to spout!

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Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jan 22, 2013 5:09 PM CST
Oh, my, my, my goodness, how nice! Now I see why some say there's really is no such thing as a dormant season in the L A basin. Nice to see, especially for those of us in the frrozen tundra of the upper Midwest--we won't see that for another 10 or 12 weeks. Keep posting their progress.
Name: della
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dellac
Jan 22, 2013 6:07 PM CST
Exciting. I love fat lily noses so much!
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jan 23, 2013 6:14 AM CST
We do have about a 2 and a half month dormant period from December-February. These are actually early even for southern California. They are LO's. Not all of them have come up yet. The lilies in the last 2 pics were just cut back about 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jan 23, 2013 7:36 AM CST
It will be interesting to see how many flowers you get, because that's pretty short rest period for high bud count--it will be good information for everyone to know. keep posting their progress.
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jan 23, 2013 2:00 PM CST
I don't think it really matters all that much. I had some OT's last year that did the same thing and they were 7' giants with around 30 flowers on them and secondary buds.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Jan 25, 2013 3:25 AM CST
No better sight!! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Name: Calin
Weston-super-mare UK (Zone 7b)
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fixpix
Jan 29, 2013 3:20 AM CST
Funny indeed to learn there's dormancy in zone 10a.
And that lilies do well.
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jan 30, 2013 4:18 PM CST
Not all lilies do well. As far as I know only OT's, LO's, Trumpets, and LA's thrive here. Orientals turn to mush after their 1st year and Asiatics keep get smaller until they disappear.
Name: Calin
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fixpix
Jan 31, 2013 12:52 AM CST
Hmm, you've still got more choices than I got (tropicals I can grow in my garden :)
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jan 31, 2013 2:45 PM CST
Some tropical plants have trouble here during the winter when we get our little cold snaps and there's a little frost at night. Their leaves get burnt and turn black.
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Jan 31, 2013 4:33 PM CST
Love seeing your emerging lilies. Thanks for the pix.
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Mar 21, 2013 5:59 PM CST
My first 2 OT's for this year have sprouted! I believe they are Boogie Woogie and Satisfaction. Thumb of 2013-03-21/NW15/afe190
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I have 2 LA's that sprouted in the last 3 weeks or so
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And the LO's are growing up fast!
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Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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abhege
Mar 21, 2013 8:01 PM CST
NW15 said:Not all lilies do well. As far as I know only OT's, LO's, Trumpets, and LA's thrive here. Orientals turn to mush after their 1st year and Asiatics keep get smaller until they disappear.


Okay, what does OT, LO and LA stand for? I am familiar with Orientals, Trumpets and Asiatics but not the others.

Mine are poking through as well, about 2" so far.
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Mar 21, 2013 8:43 PM CST

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These are abbreviations for certain hybrids. OT is Oriental x Trumpet. LO is Longiflorum (Easter lily) x Oriental and LA is Longiflorum x Asiatic lily.
Name: Arlene
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abhege
Mar 21, 2013 8:51 PM CST
Okay, thanks! So does that mean main types (not hybrids) are Oriental, trumpet, Longiflorum and Asiatic?

Sorry, I have never paid much attention to the types before so I'm just trying to get this straight.

Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Mar 21, 2013 9:17 PM CST

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Well sort of. Each of those are general terms for a group of species that are generally compatible with each other to make hybrids. For example, the Oriental lilies (garden hybrids) may have species such as Lilium auratum, L. japonicum, and others in their background. Same with the others, Asiatic, trumpet etc. So you can see by the time OT lilies come along it is quite a mix up!

We will have Lily Week in July and will likely discuss all of this stuff!
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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abhege
Mar 21, 2013 10:38 PM CST
Okay. Thanks. I was looking online and I'm afraid my brain just wasn't absorbing it.

I like a lot of flowers in general and know a bit about most but never have gotten very involved in any one kind.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Mar 22, 2013 6:17 AM CST
But Trumpets, Orientals, and Asiatics are a good starting point from a knowledge base stand point because most modern day commercially available lilies are hybrids based on those three groups. From there you can easily expand your knowledge a little at a time by association because almost everything you're going to run into today will have the word Trumpet, Oriental, or Asiatic in it somehere in the description.

From there and along the way, you'll pick up little pointers here and there like:

The Trumpet group is generally thought of as the most fragrant group, tall and that make good long stem cuttings.
The Asiatic group is thought of as the most colorfull group and earliest to bloom but generally not fragrant.
The Oriental group is thought of as the late blooming group with lush foliage and fragrance.

You'll pick up other little pointers too, like: lilies prefer a sandy, loamy type soil somewhat high in organic matter that has good drainage (lilies don't like wet feet). They withstand dry periods well. They never really go truely dormant but require a rest period called a chill (winter season) to produce a high bud or flower count the following year. Avoid using fresh animal manure as a sourse of organic matter. All kinds of little pointers, and you'll find it all here as we move along throughout the seasons.

We would be delighted to hear your comments and suggustions as we move along as well; and not necessarily limited to lilies either. Many of us grow a variety of flowers in beautifull garden arrangement settings so we always like to know 'what goes good with what'. For us, lillies are just central to it all.
Name: Arlene
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abhege
Mar 22, 2013 8:24 AM CST
Okay. I can't wait for mine to blossom this year to take pictures. I have pkg. labels from a couple and the rest were given to me.

Eventually I would like to propagate them...

I will keep on eye on this forum! Thanks for your help. Sticking tongue out

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