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Feb 4, 2013 2:10 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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Moving things out of the greenhouse and saw this poking out from under the shelf. Leaves are about 2" to 2 1/2" at widest point. The leaf edges have razor sharp thorny (?)edges. Looks like the nutans, only much larger.
I'll add it to the data base if it can be IDd.


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Feb 4, 2013 3:02 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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It may be billbergia x windii (Angel's Tears), or if it has pronounced silver striping on the underside of the leaves, perhaps billbergia vittata.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 4, 2013 3:12 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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From the photos, I believe you're correct, Sherry! It's B. x windii. Thanks!
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Feb 4, 2013 3:21 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
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That's my best guess, but.....I'd wait for Janet to weigh in....lol...
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 4, 2013 3:22 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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gotcha!
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Feb 4, 2013 4:02 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Billbergia x windii was my first thought, there's several crosses but this looks like the one which has been around for some time.

http://fcbs.org/cgi-bin/dbman/...
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Feb 4, 2013 4:20 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
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That last photo of Todd Clayton's is "spot on." It looks exactly like mine. I haven't opened the big hoop house, but I bet there's a whole large pot of those blooms in there. I believe this was a piece of the larger plant that was knocked off in putting things away for winter.
Thanks to both of you, Janet and Sherry.
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Feb 4, 2013 4:22 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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I have b. nutans and what I thought / think is b. x windii and possibly b. vittata...but I sure would like to have the variegated form also...wow.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 4, 2013 4:45 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
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I love anything variegated!
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Feb 4, 2013 6:24 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
You know, that's funny......I have a close friend who likes all of the odd stuff that I do and for years it had to be "anything variegated" and I just couldn't see it...now it's crept up on me, I suddenly became nuts for everything variegated. I have variegated things, I just hadn't realized that I was getting more and more.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 4, 2013 7:16 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
The oaks in my back yard have gradually shaded most of the garden. I find the variegated stuff looks good in the partial shade, even in sunlight.
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Feb 4, 2013 7:36 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Yeah, it seems to me that the colors are stronger in part shade, or it could be that the things I have that are variegated happen to be plants that like part shade anyway. In Austin, you need that shade!...lol..
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 4, 2013 8:25 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
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Oh yes we do!!!!
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Feb 8, 2013 8:34 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
OT..not a billbergia, but..... variegated?...Oh yes!
http://www.penick.net/digging/
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 8, 2013 8:56 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
I have about five or six Abutilons, one of which is variegated. It struggles in the 100+° summers here. It's almost easier to replace them in spring. I keep mine in pots, so far. That's going to change this year. Too hard to keep pots watered in the summer. BTW, that nursery in the blog, Barton Sprgs., is one of my "haunts." It's about 2 miles from here. If I find a tiny v. Abutilon this spring, I'll let you know!
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Feb 8, 2013 9:05 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Penick's blog is one of my favorites.....I've learned a lot about Austin from her....lol..
Also, sharing a lot of growing conditions, I find that I'm being influenced by her ideas and plantings.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 8, 2013 9:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
You'd like Central Texas Gardening, the PBS show on KLRU. http://www.klru.org/ctg/index.... There's lots of interviews and different gardens.

Here's one of Pam! http://www.klru.org/ctg/episod... Check out Past Shows. The videos are like "how-tos."
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Feb 8, 2013 10:18 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Thanks!
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Feb 8, 2013 11:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
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