Stress-Free Rose Pruning

By zuzu
February 12, 2013

This is the time of year when many gardeners feel anxious about the approaching rose pruning season. Much of this anxiety stems from the rules we were once taught. Pruning is much easier than these rules suggest, however, and it may not even be necessary in your garden.

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Enjoyed the article zuzu. Will have to make pillars of them due to space constraints. How will a rose pillar look Whistling (wondering).
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This is the best article I've read so far and very timely because I didn't prune my few rose bushes this year. I am a member of our local rose society and I get emails and articles about how to prune, when to prune. I work a lot of hours and doesn't have a lot of time pruning. Wow 2000 rose bushes, you must be living in paradise!!!
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I'm on a crusade to eliminate unnecessary pruning. Hilarious! Don't ever feel guilty about not pruning your roses. They'll be happy you didn't.
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Thanks! :tiphat:, I edited my typos too. I love your garden and all the roses. I never thought there's tons of different colors in roses!!!! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Sep 15, 2013 12:18 PM CST
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What a great article ! Most of the traditional advice for pruning was written for the hybrid perpetual class of roses rather the the more modern hybrid teas and floribundas and you have made a clear case of "why" we don't have to use those methods for more modern roses. Smiling

I'm on a crusade to eliminate unnecessary pruning. Hilarious! Don't ever feel guilty about not pruning your roses.

A couple of notes from someone who lives in a colder climate than Zuzu and a warmer climate than Toni.

I don't prune every rose every year. I also don't prune out all of the dead wood on some of the roses. The plants use that wood to hold up a heavy canopy of foliage and bloom. Of course it depends on the rose.

Research has shown that it takes 35 healthy leaves to support a bloom, so if you prune out anything smaller than a pencil, you are taking away a potential source of food for the rose because those shoots produce foliage that will feed the rose with photosynthesis. If they are in the center of the plant, the rose will abandon them on its own when they don't get enough light.

In the mountains of northern California, waiting until the forsythia blooms is truly important because we always have a winter thaw late January to early February which can last two to three weeks. My roses will put out the growth nodes shown in Zuzu's photo and even produce a lot of blind growth because the conditions are right for the rose to think it's time to start putting on new growth, but winter is not over. The forsythia hasn't even begun to have swelling buds. Sure enough we will have more winter ! And all of that new growth freezes.

The forsythia blooms in town, about two hundred feet lower elevation than my garden, two weeks earlier than the forsythia in my front garden. The forsythia on the slope behind the house, about twenty feet higher in elevation, blooms a whole week later and they both have the same sunlight. I usually cannot start my pruning until late March or early April.

In late fall, I make one exception for some of my roses which is what I call snow tipping. At my elevation, 2200 ft, I get heavy, wet, gloppy snow that usually only stays on the plant for a couple of days. For those roses that have a very heavy canopy at the top with stiff canes, I will lace them in the fall, so that the snow will fall through the plant and I won't have any breakage caused by the weight of the snow. These cuts are always above where I would normally prune and are just to open the canopy. It's a preventive prune.

Zuzu, I have never read a better article about pruning modern roses. Thank you ever so much for sharing what you have learned from your roses. Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up

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Bumping this up, since I've been hired to prune my elderly neighbor's roses, some of which were brought over from Germany decades ago (my friend just turned 100 yrs. old!), so I want to do what's best for them.

So how do you know how far down dead wood goes? Some of them look dried up and dead all the way to the ground, but then there are green canes growing out of them. Should I do the fingernail scratch test on all of the big old woody canes? Help!
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If it's not green & flexible, I trim it. Which means I trim a LOT. But I've seen purple canes w/new leaves. IMO, in your situation, I'd trim it down to the ground, especially if it looks dried up. Black/purple canes don't look dried up, just black/purple.
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Renee, you say: "Some of them look dried up and dead all the way to the ground, but then there are green canes growing out of them."

If there are green canes growing from these, they aren't dead. They're just old. There's no need to remove them.
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Apr 18, 2014 7:17 AM CST
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Thanks, Zuzu! I know that sounded ignorant, but being a newbie to rose care, especially with someone else's precious plants, I just want to be sure. Blinking
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Apr 18, 2014 7:55 AM CST
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Old roses really don't need pruning except to shape them so they don't get in the way. Even some of the dead wood in the center/underneath can be left for structural support.
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Apr 18, 2014 8:19 AM CST
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PPal - I've read to remove the dead/dried canes as, when the wind blows, the old thorns can cut into the new canes, causing open wounds for bugs to get into...
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My roses are much denser bushes than yours - partly because of our long growing season, but mostly because of the type of roses I grow; they are not moved much by the wind. Also the dead canes are often in the middle 4-5' from where I can stand; it is really hard to get in there and even harder to get back out.
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PPal - Awww.. just dive right in! Grow roses, donate blood! LOLLL!!! But yea, very very very very VERY few of my roses manage to stay alive through the growing season I have long enough to put out tons of canes.. mostly 15-20 canes at best.
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Thanks for the different perspectives, everyone.

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