Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Preparing semps for shipping

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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Feb 12, 2013 12:35 PM CST
Some questions regarding shipping semps and what people do to best prepare them for the time out of the ground.

I have several large semps that have been in pots and are very pot bound, lots of fibrous roots. Do I (gently) pull most of those off, leaving the long tap root, or do I leave all this root material on? It seems that if I leave it on it will take up a lot of space.

How long before shipping do you "bare root" the plant? I bare root by brushing dirt off and then hosing it down and letting dry.

I guess those are my 2 main questions...wanted to get this thread started before we begin trading...can you tell where my heads at! nodding

Thanks
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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Feb 12, 2013 2:45 PM CST

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Greg, Lynn did a great article about that: http://garden.org/ideas/view/valleylynn/35/Packaging-Sedum-a...
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 12, 2013 6:51 PM CST
Thanks Chris, I'll check it out! I tip my hat to you.
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Cruddy
Feb 13, 2013 2:52 PM CST
Thats good to know. Thanks for the link goldfinch4.
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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Feb 13, 2013 4:16 PM CST

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You're welcome. Lynn did a great job with the instructions!
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 4:24 PM CST
I agree it makes it clear what to do :)
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2013 7:08 PM CST

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So sorry I didn't address sempervivum roots in that article. I've never clipped off roots except ones that look damaged from harvesting.
This would be a great thing to do an experiment on.
A group of semps with main tap root cut off
A group of semps with just the fine roots cut off, leaving the tap root
A group of semps with all roots cut off
A group of semps with all roots left in tact

Green Grin!
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 7:31 PM CST
I'm thinking that I'll trim them, mostly because the weight otherwise is in roots which grow readily, rather than rosettes which I think grow slower.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2013 7:43 PM CST

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I don't think I would trim the fine roots. Maybe you could try just the two experiments.
1. Trim the fine roots only
2. Trim the tap root only

What do you think?
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 8:14 PM CST
I'll look at them again tomorrow and see what seems right...the root ball seems way larger than what it should be based on seeing other semps' roots, which is why I think its roots from like weeds and what not mixed in...but I'll see tomorrow
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2013 9:19 PM CST

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Take a photo for us Greg. Some varieties form very dense root masses.
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 9:22 PM CST
Ok I will, these are the NOIDs that I call "common houseleeks" so I imagine they probably are the kind that have dense root systems, its just amazing how dense! (too bad they're not edible!)
If these guys were edible it'd make them the perfect plant huh??! nodding
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2013 9:26 PM CST

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I just looked it up, mildly toxic, don't eat them Greg. Thumbs down
And I hope they didn't hear you type that. Blinking
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 9:28 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Had to reread that last part! Yes I hope not either! nodding Okay, so no eating semps, or semp roots! Hurray!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2013 9:32 PM CST

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They will sleep well tonight, now that they know you won't eat them. Big Grin
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 13, 2013 9:52 PM CST
Aw, you were all worried about your babies! You thought maybe I'd try them?? nodding
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 14, 2013 12:47 AM CST

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No, I new these would be okay, to young, not big enough to fill you up. Big Grin
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Feb 14, 2013 1:24 AM CST
late night snack?? nodding
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Feb 14, 2013 9:44 AM CST

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