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Jul 24, 2021 10:02 AM CST
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Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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I'm not sure this is M. geminispina. I would like to ask @skopjecollection and @mcvansoest to take a look and tell me what they think. This extreme clumping behavior is not typical of the species.
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Jul 24, 2021 11:29 AM CST
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
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Here is your problem
https://www.tokopedia.com/java...
if @Kaktus would be so kind to translate..
Otherwise this misinformation is why we cant have nice things,
I dont know what this is but it could be some mutant judging from the weird offsetting
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Jul 24, 2021 11:33 AM CST
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
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Escobaria sneedli?
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Jul 24, 2021 1:30 PM CST
Name: Thijs van Soest
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The clumping seems excessive but who knows it could be something that they selected for in propagation, what the main question is to me is does it have black tipped spines, from the picture I'd say not, and afaik most geminispina have black tipped spines.

I have one that is clumping a lot, but not quite like that, but it means that to me the clumping cannot be the main reason to say it is not, but combined with other reasons it could be an argument.
It is what it is!
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Jul 24, 2021 3:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Anderson describes two subspecies of geminiflora: the typical one with 2 central spines that are white with dark tips; and leucocentra with 5-6 pure white spines. Pilbeam pictures leucocentra and some of the spines have dark tips... but there are definitely a greater number of them, and some are pure white. In any case, counting those central spines may be helpful. To arrive a proper ID independently from the seller's conclusions, we would probably need a close shot of the stem at the top (with good light and in good focus) and ideally a flower pic. Bear in mind there are ~170 species of Mammillaria (depending on how you count) and if this is some kind of oddball cultivar, then all bets may be off. Smiling
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Jul 24, 2021 5:40 PM CST
Name: TJOE
Indonesia
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Try to get a clearer shot of the cactus, the shape of the cactus is quite long like elongated cacti, and the spines are not sharp, you rub it with your hands without getting hurts. Feels like soft baby tooth brush. Hope this can help for the ID.
Thumb of 2021-07-24/Kaktus/a0432a

Thumb of 2021-07-24/Kaktus/485895
Sorry for the problem caused I tip my hat to you.
If they look healthy, do nothing
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Jul 24, 2021 7:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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I am drawing a blank here.

The central spines on geminispina are stouter and more prominent compared to the radial spines, making them quite distinct. I am seeing 1 or maybe 2 central spines in the photo (hard to tell really) but no dark tips. That would put it in the genus, given the wool and bristles just barely visible in a couple of axils (the part of the stem in between the tubercles). A flower picture might get you closer to the answer, if nobody else has it pinned down.
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Jul 24, 2021 7:32 PM CST
Name: TJOE
Indonesia
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Too bad that cactuses are very difficult to bloom in Indonesia, we don't have winter to let them rest and collect energy to bloom. But we can enjoy something like 12 months growing season as an exchange
If they look healthy, do nothing
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Jul 26, 2021 12:19 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
Cactus and Succulents Seed Starter Xeriscape Container Gardener Hummingbirder Native Plants and Wildflowers
Garden Photography Region: Mexico Plant Identifier Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Level 2
Moved to the genus entry for Mammillaria.
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