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Jun 7, 2022 3:22 AM CST
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Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
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@KentPfeiffer

KentPfeiffer said: The seedling below came from a cross of Magnificent Masterpiece and Royal Sterling. It may look like the flower you are describing?




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I don't know how well your photo captures the actual color of your seedling. (My photo of course has utterly failed to capture the actual color of the flower I was photographing, leading to this whole discussion.)

Here, I darkened your picture

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This brings it much closer - in fact very close in terms of color!

This picture of yours from the database of Royalty Remembered is the right color, though it looks like your picture is overexposed and probably lighter than the actual flower. I wanted to cross Aristocracy with it, but mine - planted last year - didn't bloom this year
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I too noticed that Aristocracy has only one registered offspring. I was surprised because it really is a perfect iris. The form is stunning, the flower is big, it increases like crazy and doesn't fall over. The color is gorgeous.

Below is a pic from the database that is a true representation of Aristocracy (there aren't many pix of it and most don't capture it. I think it is hard to photograph)



My flowers have pollen (is there such a thing as infertile pollen?) I tried crossing it on something to see if I could get a pod. So appreciate your comments/info.
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Jun 18, 2022 5:43 AM CST
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Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
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My objects of desire have come together - literally. After my camera turned an attempt to photograph Aristocracy into a gorgeous purple iris with blue beards, that apparently doesn't exist I wondered if I could create one.

As @KentPfeiffer pointed out, Aristocracy, a beautiful Keppel iris, only has one registered child. It was the pollen parent, so I decided to see if I could make a pod with it. The flower I tried it with was my first object of desire, Sergey as it was blooming nearby. I appear to have succeeded!

But here is the weird thing that I hope you folks that have made seedlings like @tveguy3 @janwax et all can enlighten me on. Sergey bloomed for me this year for the first time after I relocated to a place with more sun. Not only did it bloom, it bloomed like mad.

I planted 3 fans and every one flowered as well as increased. Since @AndreaD wants to trade me for Sergey, I made sure not to try to pollinate any of the flowers on the fan I'm going to dig for her. I carefully marked which ones I pollinated. I have 2 pods of those, big round pods, growing. But here's the weird part - every single fan has pods, so I guess those others must be bee pods. The pods that appeared without my intervention seem a different shape, more long and thin. It is very rare for me to have bee pods in my garden, and the ones I've had have always been empty. Since Sergey has never bloomed before for me I don't know if Sergey tends to make a bunch of pods. I have literally never one iris make so many pods. Does anyone have any insight into this? Thanks.
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Jun 18, 2022 9:24 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Wow, I have tried for years to get Aristocracy to work, and never got it to work either way, so you're lucky to get it on your first try. I would guess the other pods that are bee pods will be empty. They often are. I'd just open one of them and see, and if empty, just get rid of them.

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Brad's seedling 13-102 is a purple with a powder blue beard. Smiling
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Jun 18, 2022 9:45 AM CST
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Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
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Oh, that seedling Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
Do you know its parentage?

tveguy3 said: Wow, I have tried for years to get Aristocracy to work, and never got it to work either way, so you're lucky to get it on your first try. I would guess the other pods that are bee pods will be empty. They often are. I'd just open one of them and see, and if empty, just get rid of them.

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Brad's seedling 13-102 is a purple with a powder blue beard. Smiling
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Jun 18, 2022 10:02 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
Birds Irises Keeps Horses Cat Lover Clematis Dog Lover
Organic Gardener Permaculture Vegetable Grower
Truth is, I can't really know that it has worked until it matures and actually has seeds. The fact that there are so many bee pods should make me less hopeful.

Not sure what's going on in that part of my garden, Belle de Provence which has struggled for years in my sunniest bed also has 3 pods. The only reason I moved it was because I had to dig everything up due to the iris borer. Now it is near Sergey. I'm dreaming that somehow some insect actually transferred pollen in that part of the garden. I guess we wait and see.

tveguy3 said: Wow, I have tried for years to get Aristocracy to work, and never got it to work either way, so you're lucky to get it on your first try.
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Jun 18, 2022 4:13 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
LynNY said: Oh, that seedling Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
Do you know its parentage?


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