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Jul 20, 2010 8:36 AM CST
Name: Vicky Thompson
Michigan (Zone 5b)
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Farmer Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Annuals Daylilies
They are migrating all over the US and thrive in sandy or light soils.
I have a friend that has tons of roses but no JB because he's in an
area that is heavy clay soil. Lucky bum!
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck"
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Jul 20, 2010 12:19 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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We are "lucky" to have sandy soil here but are surrounded by an area that is largely clay, I guess we'll be the first in our county to get the beetles when they migrate farther south.
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Jul 20, 2010 4:43 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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I just tried planting 4 bareroot roses I ordered from a guy in WI and had a HELL of a time digging through the clay! Then, after I did manage to break a hole big enough & deep enough, I can't use the original soil as I can't break it up fine enough to pour back into the hole! GAH! I HATE CLAY! And Claybusters is only good for grass, not for roses (at least that's what I was told).
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Jul 20, 2010 6:00 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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That sounds grim. I had that kind of soil in Piedmont. Digging was exclusively winter work. I used to dread it when my cats got sick in summer. Too hard to dig graves for them in case they didn't recover.
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Jul 20, 2010 6:58 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Can't dig in winter... Ground's frozen. That's why I try Roger everything done before July as that's when it turns into ceramic. I like digging in April, ground's squishy, but that's also when the centipedes come out of hibernation. Any idea what would be eating the top 1/2 inch of the rose buds? Has to be a critter at night that's not a bunny... No distinct pattern of what kind of rose, but seems to prefer my darker, perhaps smellier roses. My purple passion got nibbled as did my Scentimental, but Europeana, who's betwen the two, was unscathed.
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Jul 20, 2010 7:08 PM CST
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Roger?

Can't say I've run across a critter that eats the top half-inch of a bud.
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Jul 20, 2010 10:02 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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GAH.. iPhone changed whatever I had wrote to Roger. What on EARTH could have that word been? lessee.. ah, to do, but instead, I typed todo, whereas my phone thought I was saying "roger".

Simple, doncha see? Can't you see Roger from to do?

:P

I'll try to get a picture of an eaten bud.. maybe someone will recognize the damage? I know definitely I don't have any bunnies.. my liatris is still in full flower and that's usually one of the first things to get munchied.
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Jul 20, 2010 11:11 PM CST
Name: Vicky Thompson
Michigan (Zone 5b)
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Farmer Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Annuals Daylilies
Actually ...roses like clay bacause it retains moisture.
You should see my friends roses....GORGEOUS
and he does nothing to amend the soil.
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck"
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Jul 21, 2010 12:55 AM CST
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I think your phone changed "to get" to Roger. That makes a little more sense.

"That's why I try (to get = Roger) everything done before July." Maybe you hit the "r" instead of the "t" in one spot or both. I'm trying to think like a phone here. Smiling

CR, I've heard that about clay soil, and now that I think back to my garden in Piedmont, the roses were spectacular although I never paid much attention to them.
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Jul 21, 2010 8:29 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I love my sandy soil when it comes to digging holes in it, but it does not retain moisture or nutrients well. However many of my roses survive despite my neglect, some even thrive! The old garden roses seem to tolerate me better than most, the hybrid teas not so much.
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Jul 21, 2010 9:49 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Do some soils harbor more pests than others? I'm totally overwhelmed at times with earwigs and centipedes... I think that it's because of the extreme amount of mulch I use (6-12" deep for cold protection). I know that centipedes are attracted to damp wood, but earwigs? And I have some slugs.. I don't think that their rose slugs, I think that they're just sluggy slugs. They're nasty.. gross. I just squish 'em when I see 'em.
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Jul 21, 2010 10:16 AM CST
Name: Alan
Chandler, AZ; 85225 (Zone 9b)
Sunset Zone 13
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No Japanese Beetles here in AZ either Smiling Yeah!!!
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Oct 14, 2010 7:43 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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I've got slugs, but gratefully, no Japanese beetles. Not that they'd have much to eat after the voles and deer are done with the roses. The voles, I think, eat roses and slugs, both; so the trick is not to trap them completely to extinction. Got two in the last three days, though.

Centipedes I'd not seen for the first two years here. Then we had an exterminator come and treat the whole house and suddenly we have carpenter ants, centipedes, scorpions, and whatnot coming out of the woodwork. So to speak.

Not sure how soil type (sand vs clay) affects japanese beetles, centipedes, and earwigs. I would guess that poor soils lacking organic material would not support pests whose larval stage depends on getting food from the soil, JB's for instance.
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Jul 28, 2011 8:12 PM CST
Name: Vicky Thompson
Michigan (Zone 5b)
Sempervivums Roses Charter ATP Member Peonies Region: Michigan Lilies
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Farmer Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Annuals Daylilies
VERY happy to report that summer #3 after putting down Milky Spore I'm see significant reduction in the numbers of Japanese Beetles! Hurray! Thumbs up
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck"
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Jul 28, 2011 9:44 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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YAY!!!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet...
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Aug 5, 2011 8:08 PM CST
Name: Vicky Thompson
Michigan (Zone 5b)
Sempervivums Roses Charter ATP Member Peonies Region: Michigan Lilies
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Farmer Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Annuals Daylilies
Spoke too soon again! Sad
They were really late to emerge this year.
Guess M.S. isn't all its cracked up to be. Thumbs down
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck"
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Aug 5, 2011 8:51 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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You know, we don't have them here, so I really know nothing about them, but I do use Spectracide for some of the bugs in my garden and it lists Japanese beetles as one of the things it kills. Is that a lie or are all of you that are plagued with JB's each year ultra-organic gardeners who would never use chemicals in your gardens?
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Aug 6, 2011 3:22 PM CST
Name: Vicky Thompson
Michigan (Zone 5b)
Sempervivums Roses Charter ATP Member Peonies Region: Michigan Lilies
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Farmer Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Annuals Daylilies
I don't like to use chemicals as it kills beneficials, especially since Honeybees are endangered, around here anyway....but I gotten soooo angry at those F'ing beetles Angry that I have literally speeded to the store to buy Sevin then evilly killed them with much pleasure. Sevin unfortunately leaves an ugly white film all over the flowers and foliage and makes the roses look like crap. Angry
Got to find something that doesn't do that.
Sick of those damn beetles! Grumbling
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck"
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