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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
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purpleinopp
May 12, 2013 7:20 AM CST
Is this a baby tree? Walnut, pecan, ash?
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 12, 2013 10:44 AM CST
Do y'all have Golden Rain Trees in your area? I am sooo NOT good at comparing photo's but it reminds me a lot of the Golden Rain Tree seedlings that pop up all over the place down here:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/290846/#b

http://www.saveourwaterwaysnow.com.au/01_cms/details_pop.asp...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leafage_of_Koelreuteria_pa...

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jmorth
May 12, 2013 12:42 PM CST
TRUMPETCREEPER, Campsis radicans
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
May 12, 2013 12:50 PM CST
This link shows images of leaves of the Trumpet Creeper: http://www.google.com/search?q=Campsis+radicans+leaf+images&...

And, here's the link to the database for Trumpet Vine/Trumpet Creeper (Campsis radicans): Trumpet Vine (Campsis radicans)
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Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
May 12, 2013 3:40 PM CST
reminds me a lot like the leaves on my young pecan Shrug! Shrug!
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 12, 2013 4:25 PM CST
My first thought was it reminded me of the Carya glabra (Pignut Hickory) that we had at our old house:

Then I thought it must be an Ash of some sort (Fraxinus sp.) but I really have no clue ... I'm pretty bad at comparing leaf photo's. Green Grin!
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Name: woofie
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woofie
May 12, 2013 5:15 PM CST
And of course, Mark is in Seattle, a far cry from FL! That darn thing looks very familiar to me, but mostly reminds me of weeds I have to yank out. We have something similar that produces very tiny white flowers and shows up everywhere. But I have no idea what it actually is.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 12, 2013 5:31 PM CST
I also thought of Ailanthus altissima (Tree of Heaven) which I've heard referred to as the Tree of H_ _ _ also, because it's an invasive: http://www.google.com/search?q=ailanthus+altissima&hl=en&tbm...
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Name: Carol
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ctcarol
May 12, 2013 8:11 PM CST
Looks like Ailanthus to me too, but I don't know if it grows that far north. From what I've read, it smells terrible if you crush a leaf or stem .Personally, I never smelled it, just hoed it out.
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JRsbugs
May 13, 2013 6:11 AM CST
Fraxinus excelsior looks closest to me, there are different forms.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=compound+toothed+leaves&biw...

Where was it found, e.g. in woods, garden etc. The example in the photo is broken stems, did it come from a mature tree? Young Ash trees are fast growing which this specimen seems to show by the looks of the stem.

Fraxinus latifolia is the only native Ash in your location, but different ornamental forms of Fraxinus excelsior are sold.

http://luirig.altervista.org/floranam/fraxinus.htm

Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
May 13, 2013 8:18 AM CST
It can't be any Fraxinus, as that genus has opposite leaf arrangement on the stem, and the subject is alternate.

You can check to verify the absence of pith down the center of the stem (inside) to rule out walnuts and pecans.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 13, 2013 2:36 PM CST
I get confused with plant parts. I know the difference between alternate and opposite but in photo 2 the stems look to be alternate while the leaves appear opposite along the stems.

In photo #2 I see the main branch with smaller stems appearing alternately from that main branch ... and leaves appearing opposite on those smaller stems. Rolling on the floor laughing Now I'm even confusing myself more; maybe those things I refer to as smaller stems have another name? I think I need to google for a photo with a diagram of a leaf to try to figure it out. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I'm still leaning towards Fraxinus (Ash) of some sort; but that's just by the shape/look of the individual leaves.
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Name: Louise
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louise
May 13, 2013 3:13 PM CST
I have a wisteria that looks a lot like this plant.

Also, it resembles this from the ATP database:
American Wisteria (Wisteria frutescens 'Amethyst Falls')

Just a guess,
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 13, 2013 4:07 PM CST
I have Wisteria 'Amethyst Falls' at our rental property: and although the leaves look "similar" in shape/form, they don't have serrated edges like the plant in question.
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
May 13, 2013 5:15 PM CST

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plantladylin said:I get confused with plant parts. I know the difference between alternate and opposite but in photo 2 the stems look to be alternate while the leaves appear opposite along the stems.

In photo #2 I see the main branch with smaller stems appearing alternately from that main branch ... and leaves appearing opposite on those smaller stems. Rolling on the floor laughing Now I'm even confusing myself more; maybe those things I refer to as smaller stems have another name? I think I need to google for a photo with a diagram of a leaf to try to figure it out. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I'm still leaning towards Fraxinus (Ash) of some sort; but that's just by the shape/look of the individual leaves.


The plant in the picture has compound leaves. The things you are calling leaves are actually leaflets. Each leaf consists of a rachis (the "smaller stems") plus all of the leaflets attached to it. The leaflets are have an opposite arrangement, but the leaves have an alternate arrangement. To be more precise, the leaves are bipinnately compound, meaning the rachis itself is divided into smaller sections.

(I don't know what the plant is, but it's not an ash)

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
May 13, 2013 5:47 PM CST
Kent: LOL, Blinking I'm getting old and forgetful and won't remember it five minutes form now but thanks so much for the explanation!

There are so many possibilities for the plant in question and I will be real curious to hear what the final verdict is. It also kind of reminds me of Cape Honeysuckle Tecoma capensis that grows at our old house ... at least I think that's the one I'm thinking of. Rolling on the floor laughing

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Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
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May 13, 2013 5:54 PM CST
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JRsbugs
May 13, 2013 5:59 PM CST
This may not be a tree, we don't as yet have any idea of what sort of growth it was taken from.

Look at the leaves of Aruncus sylvestris, there is a similarity with the lower pairs of compound leaves coming below the larger ones (make sense? Hilarious! )

http://www.natura-2000.eu/aruncus.htm
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JRsbugs
May 13, 2013 6:06 PM CST
Aruncus dioicus is in WA

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aruncus_dioicus_15119...

http://luirig.altervista.org/floranam/aruncus.htm

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