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Oct 13, 2023 10:50 AM CST
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Next spring seeds, I was actually going to try and kick it up a notch and look for seeds at a local Austin farm called Johnson City Backyard farm…which I heard had heirloom seeds dating back to the 1800's!…but a quick google search showed it is now closed.

Johnson's Backyard Garden (Packing Shed and Farm Office)

Google or join the Facebook group etc. place was amazing, anyways, so I suppose my point is where do I get great pepper seeds?

Are there great pepper seeds online that can be shipped? Where? This is probably a whole other topic that should be featured IMO. If it already hasn't. "Where are the best heirloom seeds online shipped to you" Smiling
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Oct 14, 2023 12:20 PM CST
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The plants look pretty good after coping with such high temps. Lime in the water can raise the PH.
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Oct 14, 2023 2:54 PM CST
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there are some pepper lovers on this thread who might suggest sources
The thread "Pepper reports 2023" in Vegetables and Fruit forum
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Oct 15, 2023 7:31 AM CST
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Jdw said: Next spring seeds, I was actually going to try and kick it up a notch and look for seeds at a local Austin farm

Are there great pepper seeds online that can be shipped?

Are you looking to diversify?
More jalapeno?

I bring my favorite pepper plants indoors over the winter, and then don't have to grow from seed...

Getting different seeds?
Lots of different sources...

Probably first place I look is baker creek:
https://www.rareseeds.com/

But for unusual peppers, Visit a site that specializes.
Searching turned up this source:
https://pepperjoe.com/collecti...

I've bought seeds from baker creek, they are a reliable seed source... Not so much for living plants.

Pepper joe?
No experience... but looks interesting.

I had a source of very inexpensive seed, but covid... Sadly, no more cheep seed.
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Oct 19, 2023 12:30 PM CST
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Can we talk a freeze? I have thought about transporting the pepper plants inside but they have roots well into the ground when I pull the pots up. That, and I don't really have room for them. In Texas, it usually only freezes a few times a year..will a freeze blanket work? I know this all seems like common sense but I honestly don't know.

I guess a better question is can these same plants last multiple seasons year after year with some methods?

The sage plant has outlasted the elements going on for many years which is really something!

any tips will help! Thanks
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Oct 19, 2023 12:36 PM CST
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How cold is your weather supposed to get - and for how long? I would suggest putting some big jugs (I use kitty litter jugs that hold about 3 gallons) or buckets filled with water near the plants, which will help keep them a little warmer, and then cover them with your frost blanket, preferably supported so it isn't touching the plants.

As far as whether the plants can last for more than the current season, absolutely; our "Florida relatives" who spend their summers up here in northern Michigan took a couple of jalapeno plants home and are still going after 5 years in FL. (And they are far enough north there that they also get occasional freezing weather.)

Good luck - I hope it works out for you! Smiling
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Oct 19, 2023 6:27 PM CST
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Thanks for the nut, Jdw ! Smiling
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Oct 27, 2023 9:17 PM CST
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I can't believe it, after a few days of real rain the peppers are growing! I'll take a pic..but wow..it's amazing what real rain does or perhaps cooler temperatures?

It's going to get into the 40s with rain next week..what should I do ?

Should I cover like it's a freeze?
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Oct 27, 2023 10:06 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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Good to hear that your peppers are doing better, Jdw!

How long are you going to have temps in the 40s? Is that just the nighttime, or daytime as well? 40s will slow the growth and ripening but shouldn't really harm your plants - we've been down in the low 30s and the last pepper plants in my garden, which have now had all the peppers taken off, are still looking fine. However, covering them during the nighttime to hold in the warmth of the ground can help them getting back up to speed during the daytime.
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Oct 28, 2023 7:07 PM CST
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Weedwhacker said: Good to hear that your peppers are doing better, Jdw!

How long are you going to have temps in the 40s? Is that just the nighttime, or daytime as well? 40s will slow the growth and ripening but shouldn't really harm your plants - we've been down in the low 30s and the last pepper plants in my garden, which have now had all the peppers taken off, are still looking fine. However, covering them during the nighttime to hold in the warmth of the ground can help them getting back up to speed during the daytime.

There is a old saying I heard, perhaps it is not just in Texas but it's "If you don't like the weather, just wait 15 minutes"lol…so this is pretty standard for Austin, it doesn't get cold or colder until Halloween. Peppers are doing great, but this is happening now

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Oct 28, 2023 7:54 PM CST
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I - and a whole lot of other people - would be extremely happy to see those temps; your peppers should be just fine! nodding
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Oct 29, 2023 12:24 AM CST
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Hey Austin! yeah, cool spell coming in Sunday night here. If it doesn't get below 34* the pepper plants will do okay. Protect from wind. They can be grown overwintered in home, but they need strong light, and watched for aphids as the winter progresses. Stuff doesn't grow too well in less than 11 hours of sunlight.
Serranos are small plants as all things go, they do fine in those pots. Jalapenos and poblanos, they are BIG plants, need much bigger pots. Use raised bed container soil if you purchase soil, but that limestone caprock you are sitting on won't bother them as long as they have room for the roots to spread out to hold them up. We sink the pots into the soil to shield the heat, but that is too shallow to do any good here. Strange summer as far as weather, so they didn't like growing if you put them out later than mid March. Peppers have different 'days to maturity' and that can affect the plants growth, after all, if you thought you would get peppers in 85 days, but it took 150 days, it could set you aback.
A favorite pepper site is Pepper Joe's pepperjoe.com
Different trees can affect plant growth as well, oaks secrete tannins that slow growth, other trees are allelopathic, such as elm and black walnuts and only select plants can survive under them. That said, Texas does require shade from 1 pm to maybe 5 pm in the summer.
My tabasco peppers started producing in mid Aug this year instead of lagging til Oct... I have always known August is the killing month here in the south for plants, because harvest starts in Sept... but this far south, nope, it is July that kills my plants. After the 3rd week in Aug the sun/heat breaks, the light starts shifting to the south more, and plants kick back in to trying to survive, so you get more fruits. I have a 5th round of tabasco peppers I need to strip tomorro before our cold spell. Always a Halloween cool down, but the last few years we have been fairly warm (almost 90*most of the time til Dec 1, ).
Let me see, this is the pot my tabasco does best in, but there is a bale of peat sitting up against the west side all summer, and a few boards to shield the soil across the sides. Tabasco get reasonably large, and I have grown a jalapeno in here, but I don't prune peppers, I let them grow.
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