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May 15, 2023 4:03 PM CST
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Walnut, California
Another week has passed, three of the four roses I planted on April 9th are all growing some lovely new leaves, especially one of them Dolly Parton grows like crazy! Only cherry parfait is very slow growing, I can just see some tiny shoots popping up, need to take extra care and hope they will not dry out this time.  

The other four roses I planted two weeks ago seem to grow quite well. Are they doing well so quickly because they had already developed lots of fine roots before I planted them?

When I planted these roses I mixed native soil with Miracle-Gro® Organic Choice® Raised Bed & In-Ground Soil with Compost, which is crafted with organic ingredients like bone meal, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, and earthworm castings. I think this type of soil normally would feed for up to three months. Correct me if I am wrong, so at this stage I don't actually need to fertilize the roses just yet? I heard that the fertilizer would burn the roots if misused. Could you advise? Thank you. 

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May 15, 2023 5:17 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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The most important next step is mulching your roses to keep the soil moist and cool. Its importance shouldn't be underestimated.
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May 15, 2023 9:12 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
I wouldn't fertilize them now, but the amount of organic meals contained in potting or raised bed soils isn't going to be enough to feed them. Wait until they bloom to fertilize them. Lots of options...
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May 16, 2023 4:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Walnut, California
Thank you Mike and Susan_in_SB. I will mulch the backyard roses as well.
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May 24, 2023 3:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Walnut, California
A quick update regarding my cherry parfait. How lovely the new shoots turned out! I still remember four weeks ago, the tiny popped up leaves all dried out, and now they come back strong, growing tall and healthy.

It is very interesting to observe how these young rose trees grow, each rose has its own way, it grows when the time comes.

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May 31, 2023 8:02 AM CST
southern Ontario (Zone 5b)
Bartung said: A quick update regarding my cherry parfait. How lovely the new shoots turned out! I still remember four weeks ago, the tiny popped up leaves all dried out, and now they come back strong, growing tall and healthy.

It is very interesting to observe how these young rose trees grow, each rose has its own way, it grows when the time comes.

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You have a lot of lovely new red growth on your roses! That's a good sign their roots are settling into the ground nicely.

In the first year, it can help your rose establish its roots if you cut off the blooms soon after they open. Cutting the rose above ground signals the roots to push up more growth. I even got a rose to grown new canes that way although most of the growth will be in the form of new stems and blooms.
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May 31, 2023 8:20 AM CST
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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No-one has mentioned rose replant disease - especially as three/four roses are being planted in the same hole the dead ones came from. This was an interesting link;
https://www.rose.org/single-po...
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May 31, 2023 8:28 AM CST
Tuscany, Italy
As far as I know, this mysterious sindrome of rose replant disease isn't much of an issue in the USA; it is much more so here in Europe. But I'm no expert...
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May 31, 2023 9:37 AM CST
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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You should note that the link I provided was to the American Rose Society and what they are discovering about the disease in America Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 31, 2023 12:26 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
One of my organic rose books claims that a good dose of composted horse manure mixed with the soil that is replacing the old soil prevents rose sickness disease when replanting where the previous rose has died.. Other advice besides replacing the old soil with new, is to wait two years before replanting in the same spot.
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Jun 1, 2023 4:56 AM CST
Tuscany, Italy
Valerie, sad to say I'm nervous about clicking on links in forums because of a bad experience with one of the Houzz forums. I clicked on a link and something happened to my computer-I lost all of my book-marked site list,which is a real problem for me, since I use it extensively. This very probably was NOT the fault of the original poster at all, but due to some glitch in Houzz. I certainly did not mean to come across to anyone as being rude. It is actually very interesting to hear that the disease does show up in the USA!
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Jun 1, 2023 7:27 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Bart, I share your cautious attitude.
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Jun 1, 2023 3:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Walnut, California
Thank you Valerie for the information regarding the rose replant disease and all above posts. Actually I was aware of it before I planted the roses.

So far these replanted roses are doing okay, I haven't seen any sign of sickness. I will keep an eye on if there are any changes.
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Jun 4, 2023 9:11 PM CST
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Walnut, California
Another update of my cherry parfait. It grows even taller and there are four tiny buds appear at the top.

Thank you CRosarian, you advised to cut the rose above ground signals the roots to push up more growth. Tell the truth I don't understand what that means. What I learned is to cut the stem down to just above a set of five leaflets. Could you shed some light?

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Jun 28, 2023 9:47 AM CST
Thread OP
Walnut, California
The moment has come! I would like to share with you the bloom of my cherry parfait and I appreciate very much all the help on how to look after newly planted roses.

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Jun 28, 2023 9:51 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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You're off to a good start!
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Jun 28, 2023 11:05 AM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Bartung said: The moment has come! I would like to share with you the bloom of my cherry parfait and I appreciate very much all the help on how to look after newly planted roses.

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Just lovely. Congratulations, Bart!
Love covers a multitude of sins......thank God!
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Jun 28, 2023 11:40 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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As Mike said that's a great start to your rose addiction.
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Jun 28, 2023 12:51 PM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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porkpal said: As Mike said that's a great start to your rose addiction.

Bart, be warned of the dark side of rose loving Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
There are many enablers lurking for innocent rose lovers in this forum Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
They will promise you roses, sunshine and laughter, but in the end, it will be only your back-breaking hard work and sweat Rolling on the floor laughing I will not even mention sleepless nights that you will spend thinking if your favourite rose will survive harsh winters, or spending hours (and tons of money) searching for your unicorn roses Hilarious!
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
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Jun 28, 2023 12:58 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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Jasmin said: I will not even mention... spending hours (and tons of money) searching for your unicorn roses Hilarious!


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