I will check out that link when I have a few mins. I saw a Cinco de Mayo rose at Home Depot and fell in love! Trouble is no one could tell me anything about it, and the tag didn't either. But I looked it up and found a link to Heirloom Roses, and all of their roses are on their own roots! Also they have the Cinco de Mayo! So when I am ready for one I might try that one, I loved the color. It was a red, but not fuscia looking like cheap nail polish lol.. It was more like a brown red with some purple undertones and muted color, not really bright looking. The bright roses just look to garish to me.

We have a lot of photos of that one in our ATP database:

Floribunda Rose (Rosa 'Cinco de Mayo')

A lot of us have Cinco de Mayo in our gardens. It does have great coloring and it's comparatively disease resistant. It's also a highly vigorous floribunda, comparable to a landscape rose, so most places wouldn't bother grafting it. The one at Home Depot, in fact, may have been an own-root rose.

If you really like it, don't buy it from Heirloom. Heirloom sends out tiny rooted cuttings. They take years to grow into something you could buy the first year from any other nursery. They're also notorious for mislabeling. I initially bought two roses from them years ago and one was mislabeled. I was foolish enough to place another order for six several years later and three of them were mislabeled. That's a 50% mislabeling rate!

oh, wow I did not realize that about Heirloom Roses. I will go back to Home depot and see if they still have that. Is there any way to tell by looking if the rose is grafted? I know the tag said it was from a nursery in Oklahoma.

that link to the plant files says the rose was hybridized in 2006, if that is the case why would Heirloom Roses have it anyway? I shouldn't think 06 is an heirloom.

The name of Heirloom Roses has nothing to do with the roses they carry. Most of them are modern roses.

oh, well thank your for clearing that up. I guess I just thought that most of the roses they sell would be old types. Do you know of a source for older roses?

well I looked at the tag again that was on the plant and it said Weeks Roses, I guess that is a brand/company? I have not heard of them, do they graft their roses? I do not want a grafted one.

You can tell whether it is grafted by looking at the base of the plant - may require a little digging. Grafted roses will have a bulbous area between the canes and the roots which is the bud union. Own root roses will look like any other shrub: roots, stem, branches. No big lump.

Weeks certainly would graft the roses that need grafting. Some roses don't grow well on their own roots.

I wrote an article earlier this year for our Rose Week & on there it explains a little about grafted roses.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/s...

I personally prefer Weeks roses (brand name) over any other kind of rose. I've grown Weeks, Star, Jackson & Perkins, & Armstrong, plus others (Certified, etc) and, IMO, Weeks has been the strongest roses. Of course, my situation is much different than yours, so you'll have to figure out which roses work the best for you. I love both own root & grafted roses. If you want just own-root roses, I'd try www.rosesunlimitedownroot.com roses. They're all own-root roses and, while a bit expensive with shipping, sends out nice little own roots. I will NOT order from Heirloom again. I don't care for their itty-bitties.

The Antique Rose Emporium is also a good source for own roots.

I have a catalog for Antique Rose Emporium, forgot I had it, will dig it out!

The article is very helpful, thank you for the link.
If I get over there and they still have the rose, I will dig around in it lol

thank you for all the helpful info

Maybe this one would work for you? http://www.antiqueroseemporium... or http://www.antiqueroseemporium... (http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...)

oh, that one is very nice, yes the color I am wanting. I will save that link. Thank you!

Home Depot has an online sign up which emails coupons. They mail coupons as well. Lowe's usually honors Home Depot coupons, if you prefer Lowe's. If you see a rose you like at a fair price in a store - especially if it is on sale- why not try it. Lots of floribundas are own root. You can stir up the dirt a little and check for a graft. It will be near the soil surface if there is one. (I wish that companies would mark if roses were own root or grafted and the root stock. Maybe if enough people make a mess looking for grafts they will start marking them) Stores also start running great sales on plants around Fourth of July. Save the pot and the receipt because they take returns (up to a year I think, so if it doesn't come back in the spring, you can get another one).

Most mail order own root roses are tiny. It could take them a year or two to get as big as the roses in the stores.

I got Wildeve in a pot at Walmart. I haven't seen an Austin rose there since, but i keep looking!

Have you looked at Gruss An Aachen (I think that is the spelling) it is an antique rose with a habit like the floribundas. The fairy is a famous pink polyantha. Melva from this group sells own root antique roses. She is a super nice person, also!

Lots of the mail order companies are running super sales right now. Our start of season is their end of season, go figure. Anyway, the own root roses from Edmunds or J&P will be bigger plants than the ones from Chamblees. Bigger isn't always better of course. Edmunds states on their website if the rose is own root or grafted. They also carry some explorer and some Radler roses and lots of Kordes roses.

What about this one? Kordes elegant Fairy Tale (it is grafted, but maybe the color you want and someone else may carry it OR or on hardy root stock)
https://www.edmundsroses.com/d...

At some point, I am going to see or try this rose - Radler's fragrant white shrub rose OR
https://www.edmundsroses.com/d...

They have Honey Sweet (sold out) and Carefree Celebration own root, Neither are pink. These are two of the best performers in my garden. My Honey Sweet was from Chamblees and CC from a friend.

While on the Edmunds site, I clicked the "new Kordes roses" button. This one looks like a beauty - Jasmina, a pale pink climbing rose. Chamblees has quite a few Kordes roses own root. I noticed that both Chamblees and Edmunds carry the lion's rose (one on my wishlist) Zuzu (I think) and some other people on helpmefind stated that the Kordes fairytale roses do better for them grafted.

No new roses for me until I move and plant my old roses. I told the landlord that I like to garden and have a few plants. An understatement.

Baby Blanket is easy to propagate. Actually, it propagates itself wherever it touches the ground! I now have two rather large Baby Blankets waiting for me to find or build a pergola. I had more small ones that I gave to neighbors and friends. Once I get settled, I can get them to propagate by layering a few branches. Let me know if anyone wants a baby Baby Blanket we can trade or something.

Everything does better for me grafted.

Except those knock out roses you bought and didn't tell us about zuzu, The ones behind the row of plastic daffodils. Maybe we should try knock out as a rootstock?

I have one Knock Out rose. It's plagued by black spot, so it's hidden among the OGR's, which are also plagued by black spot, way in the back of the garden, where few people go.

We hide a black gargoyle in among our OGRs. Keeps the bad stuff in one place, away from the house.