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Jun 5, 2013 2:51 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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I hope someone can ID this for me. Not sure if it's a weed or not. It's rather large, close to 3 feet tall. The leaves are shiny and dark green on the top, and slightly fuzzy and lighter in color underneath, and about 6 inches in length. The flower buds are fuzzy, and each bud is about the size of a small marble. The open flowers are a little over an inch across, with each flower head being about 3 inches or more across. There are many bugs on it, and I think they may be native bees. Any help on the name would be most appreciated!



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Jun 5, 2013 4:41 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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Maybe Asclepias incarnate ( swamp milk weed)?
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Jun 5, 2013 5:04 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Thanks for the suggestion Carol. That isn't it, but it's very pretty!
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Jun 5, 2013 5:09 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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I have that in Chelan, WA. too. Not sure what it is but it does spread a bit. I'm all ears!
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Jun 5, 2013 5:17 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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I think it may be Asclepias speciosa, an Idaho native milkweed.

http://www.idahonativeplants.o...
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Jun 5, 2013 5:18 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Darn you bet me to it just looked that up.
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Jun 5, 2013 5:24 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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I remembered seeing a picture of that plant a while back...just needed a picture to refresh the memory... Big Grin
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Jun 5, 2013 5:24 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Moonhowl, that's it!! Thanks so much!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

Now to get it to spread here! It's in a very small area, and I've seen almost no others around here. I will try to collect some seeds and spread them to other areas of the property. The native bees, if that is what they are, sure do love it.

Thanks again!
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Jun 5, 2013 5:36 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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You are most welcome. Here is some general info on care etc for you

http://www.missouribotanicalga...


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Jun 5, 2013 6:11 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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You are awesome!! Thanks again!!!
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Jun 6, 2013 9:13 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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I tip my hat to you. *Blush* Happy to help, Natalie
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Jun 6, 2013 3:27 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Does this one have a scent? Nice find!!
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Jun 6, 2013 3:38 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Opp, I didn't notice a scent, but didn't get too close because of all the bees on it. I figured my nose might get poked if I wasn't careful. I'll check the next time I'm near the plant.
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Jun 6, 2013 10:07 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Opp, I stopped on my way to the mailbox, and there is no scent at all to the plant. It would have been even better if it smelled pretty, but it just looks pretty!
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Jun 7, 2013 4:36 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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It sure does! Thanks for putting your sniffer in danger for science! :+)
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Jun 7, 2013 4:48 PM CST
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing You are most welcome!
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Jul 8, 2013 12:20 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
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I've been checking this plant every few days, hoping to find some seeds in the dried flower heads. Nothing. Imagine my surprise yesterday when I noticed these big seed pods! How on earth did I miss them? Rolling on the floor laughing Looks like I'm going to get plenty of seeds! The problem is, I'm not sure when they are ready to harvest. From what I've found online, it says that they split open and the seeds blow away. The pictures show the pods as still being green, so I guess I'll have to keep a very close eye on them until they look like they are starting to split. Hopefully they don't just burst open!

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Jul 10, 2013 8:36 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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So glad your plant set seeds Smiling even happier that you found them. nodding Sometimes when we are not very familiar with a plant, it is easy to miss things about it. I speak from personal experience... Whistling My husband and i can be walking through the yard and I will say...YUCK! Please pull that hornworm of that tomato....and he will give me a blank look and say where? and even when i point to it, he doesn't see it.....Not that he can't see, or doesn't know what it is or how to recognize it......the problem lies with him not being familiar with that individual plant's morphology. The first thing I hear from folks when i say that is often, NAH...every gardener knows what a tomato plant looks like.... While this may or may not be correct (that is a different discussion nodding ) in this case, he does know....but he doesn't know THIS particular plant. Why? I choose it, brought it home, planted it, fed it, tended it, and pretty much looked at it every day.

So what difference does that make? Confused Quite a bit actually. I remember the shape of the leaves, stems and trunk from the time i put it in the ground....So? He was still not convinced....and i am sure neither are a lot of other folks, Whistling That being said....how? When i watered that plant this morning, all of its' branches were full and up upright and healthy looking creating a certain symmetry..... now this evening, that is gone. So why does that tell me there is a hornworm eating my plant? It doesn't Confused what it does tell me is that something has damaged my tomato plant since morning and from there it is a matter of deductive reasoning and observation .

1) It has been damaged, 2) it is a tomato plant 3) we have seen hornworm damage before, and have them in our area , 4) the tender small new growth is gone, and finally 5) There is Hornworm frass on some of the lower leaves of the plant.

Plant Morphology is basically knowing what a healthy Tomato plant looks like, and recognizing when it doesn't. ( This is a gross oversimplification of the science i am sure) But, think in terms of human morpholgy....we all know what humans look like given the norm for human body structure.....You do notice when a person you meet is missing an arm or leg....not an intentional recognition of what is missing, perhaps, but you see the difference, because your brain knows and carries an imprint. Nature is full of symmetry and for most living things that is bilateral or radial symmetry. We notice when the symmetry is missing.
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Jul 10, 2013 1:12 PM CST
Name: Ginger
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Natalie...you could put old pantyhose over the pods and secure them so when the pod opens you'll catch the seeds.
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Jul 10, 2013 1:17 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Great pods! They should get much bigger, maybe develop protective spiky things. They don't burst open, and turn brownish before cracking. Once you see a crack develop, cut the pods off. Once they get rained on, that can rot the seeds. Store seeds in a paper bag because they will be quite moist, so they don't rot. If you put them in pots (with drain holes) outside for winter, forget about them until spring, you should have good results. (Winter sowing.)

You might want to leave one pod for the seeds to go naturally where they will, and so you can see the process. Each seed has a little cotton parachute so it can fly away.
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