Gardening for Wildlife forum: Can anyone ID this toad?

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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 17, 2013 10:50 AM CST
Anyone know what kind of toad this is? It was in my yard in Idaho yesterday. It's about the size of my fist, which would help if I measured my fist! It buries itself in the dirt. I looked online, but they all start looking alike after a few pictures. I think it could be a bufo toad of some kind because of the stripe down its back. I have dogs, so I'm worried about it being in the yard. If it's poisonous, we'll transplant it somewhere. If it's not poisonous, it can live here as long as it wants since they are good predators. I'll even build it a house!

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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Natalie
Jun 17, 2013 11:19 AM CST
I just went out to see if I could find the toad, and it had climbed back into one of my seedling pots. Grumbling The pot is 4" across, and the toad takes up most of the top of it. Hopefully the black hollyhock seedling survives!

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Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Jun 17, 2013 4:09 PM CST
That is one fat toad, obviously it has been eating well!! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Natalie
Jun 17, 2013 6:23 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing That is what I thought too Margaret! I hope it ate a rattlesnake or two before Mark moved it to a new home!

It has been confirmed that it is a bufo toad, and it's been relocated because I have dogs. I'd still like to know which bufo toad it is. If anyone could help with that, I sure would appreciate it!
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Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Jun 19, 2013 11:34 AM CST
Just guesing but maybe Western Toad, Bufo boreas.

http://www1.dnr.wa.gov/nhp/refdesk/herp/html/4bubo.html

Here is a good ID page for Idaho amphibians
http://www.isu.edu/~petechar/idar/amphib.pdf
wildflowersoftexas.com
texasnatureonline.com


Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Natalie
Jun 19, 2013 11:43 AM CST
Thanks Jay! That is it! Thanks also for the great link. The photos are much better there than the other places I had looked. I suspected it was a Western Toad, but I couldn't find a good enough picture to be sure. Now I know, and will save that site. Great information and photos!
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Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Gleni
Dec 4, 2013 10:55 PM CST
What a wonderful toad!!!
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Natalie
Dec 4, 2013 10:58 PM CST
Glen, this is the one that can kill my dogs! Not wonderful at all!
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Dec 4, 2013 11:04 PM CST
Sooo, how does a toad kill a dog? I did open one of the links, but my eyes are tired and I didn't immediately find the answer. Seems like an odd concern to me. I've never noticed any interaction between my dog and any toad/frog type creature... ????
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
Bearded Dragon young male
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Gleni
Dec 4, 2013 11:28 PM CST
Natalie, yes, but only if the dog mauls the toad and ingests the toxins in the skin, or that exuded because of pressure or fear. There should also be the similar problem in the US of dogs becoming addicted to mouthing them because of the hit. Terriers are especially likely to become addicts.

Deb, yes it is not usual that amphibians and dogs interact and poisoning by toads is not common. As well, dogs can be taught to leave them be. Here we have little choice because the introduced pest Cane Toad is ubiquitous.
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Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Natalie
Dec 4, 2013 11:53 PM CST
You all haven't met my dog, Bailey. If it's round, it goes in her mouth. This toad is close enough to round, and my husband grabbed the toad, just before Bailey did. She spent an hour hunting for it after it was gone. Had two or three more show up, and she almost got those, too.
Natalie
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Region: Australia Annuals Canning and food preservation Herbs Tropicals Foliage Fan
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Gleni
Dec 6, 2013 2:09 AM CST
Natalie. I am going to try and photograph a Cane Toad for you tonight.
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers
Cottage Gardener Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Echinacea Xeriscape
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Natalie
Dec 6, 2013 2:14 AM CST
Glen, My Dad took a picture of one for me when he was in Australia last year. Not something I would want to see here!
Natalie
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
Bearded Dragon young male
Region: Australia Annuals Canning and food preservation Herbs Tropicals Foliage Fan
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Gleni
Dec 6, 2013 4:49 AM CST
It is a bit cool tonight. It took a while to find one in the garden. This looks like a small, young male of about 4.5" snout-vent length.
Presenting Cane Toad (Bufo marinus): conqueror and one of the best examples of the folly of humans.
Toads are not native to Australia and were bought here from Hawaii, where they had also been introduced by enthusiastic, but stupid, entomologists working for the sugar industry.

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Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
Bearded Dragon young male
Region: Australia Annuals Canning and food preservation Herbs Tropicals Foliage Fan
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Gleni
Dec 7, 2013 3:08 PM CST
No one likes my Toad. Sniff.
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Natalie
Dec 7, 2013 3:30 PM CST
Glen, I like you, and your toad is good looking. Can't say that I like cane toads. Nope, just can't say it. Hilarious!
Natalie

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