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Mar 1, 2024 11:00 PM CST
West Central Minnesota (Zone 4a)
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Your problems are from lack of light. You need to put it by a window and keep the light very close too.
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Mar 2, 2024 2:38 PM CST
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West Boylston
I have no place to put them by a window, in the sun. The grow lights are all I have.
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Mar 2, 2024 2:47 PM CST
Name: Donna
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Keep trying. Gardening, as you've found, and especially indoors, is a process of trial and error. I tip my hat to you. Whistling
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Mar 2, 2024 7:39 PM CST
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West Boylston
This is what I have. Are the lights low enough?
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Mar 2, 2024 8:20 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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vajmisc said: This is what I have. Are the lights low enough?
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Judging from the way previous photos of the seedlings look... no.
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Mar 2, 2024 8:22 PM CST
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West Boylston
I discarded the previous plants & am starting new. I had them around 6" high on the last ones. This picture is of the ones I just started.
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Mar 3, 2024 5:32 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Hopefully, in just a few days, you'll see new seedlings Crossing Fingers!
Plant it and they will come.
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Mar 5, 2024 6:38 PM CST
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West Boylston
Update: I have some sprouts (some on the other side too, just couldn't fit all of it in 1 pic.) and they look more normal. Although I'm a little worried about the one on the bottom left of the container. It's halfway between the 2 grow lights It's taller than the rest. Is that because it sprouted earlier or because it's not close enough to the light? Any thoughts? Thanks for following me on this journey :)
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Mar 5, 2024 8:53 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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1 yes, because it's farther from lights or
2 the others might stretch up too, as they get the same days old, if light is still dim

Time will tell
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Mar 9, 2024 7:53 PM CST
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West Boylston
Update: So this is after 4 more days. Definitely bigger, taller, but much straighter than my 1st try. The white stuff is crushed egg shells. What is the next development and how long before I see it?

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Mar 9, 2024 8:38 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Sounds better.
Next is new leaves that look different.
But they are still stretching for the light..
Crushed eggshells don't do anything for it. Smiling
Plant it and they will come.
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Mar 9, 2024 8:39 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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How long are you leaving the lights on? Your seedlings are still much too "leggy."
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Mar 10, 2024 12:05 AM CST
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West Boylston
The lights are on 12 hrs, off 12 hrs. I do have a 6000k full spectrum light coming Monday & it's an arm so it will cover more of the area. I was thinking they looked too long. (I just put the egg shell in for some nutrients, I read that it was good for plants). I'll look up née leaves so I can recognize them.
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Mar 10, 2024 1:40 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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vajmisc said: (I just put the egg shell in for some nutrients, I read that it was good for plants). I'll look up née leaves so I can recognize them.

Ack, don't look up nee.. that was my typing error! New leaves . Seedlings like this start with 'seed leaves' The next leaves are true leaves.
Egg shells, false.
Plant it and they will come.
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Mar 11, 2024 6:22 PM CST
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West Boylston
Update: so this is right now. New light will hopefully help. Is it close enough? It's 2" above the plants. They're still standing straight, not flopping on the soil. All the seeds sprouted, even some multiples, which I weeded out.
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Mar 11, 2024 6:39 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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How close to the plants the light should be depends on the light itself; the LED shop lights that I have, which are something like 4400 lumens, stay about an inch above my seedlings. The fancier (i.e. more expensive) grow lights need to be further from the seedlings so they don't burn them. But if your seedlings grow leggy (whether they are standing up straight or not) the light is too far away.
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Mar 16, 2024 10:04 AM CST
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West Boylston
I have true leaves!
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Mar 19, 2024 5:57 PM CST
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West Boylston
I now have around 4-5 leaves on most plants, the radish typical leaf shape is emerging.
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Mar 26, 2024 6:39 PM CST
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West Boylston
Why is my leaves curling up? I did move the container to the window, not getting much more light as it's frosted & the grow light is still on it. I sprayed the soil down with diluted hydrogen peroxide as I was getting gnats.
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Mar 26, 2024 6:50 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Not sure but take care they aren't staying too wet.
Plant it and they will come.

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