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Jul 21, 2013 11:42 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Someone pointed it out.
The rest of the stems and leaves are vigorous and normal.
The blooms on Robina have these streaks. Satisfaction had more than a few buds that never opened and just turned brown.
Whats happening?
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Jul 21, 2013 2:06 PM CST
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Not too sure it's a virus; I've had it happen when it gets very hot and notice it moreso on darker colored lilies. My lilies will abort buds when it's hot and not getting enough water.

Let's see how others chime in with their experiences ~
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Jul 21, 2013 2:34 PM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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I googled and believe its the tulip breaking virus.
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Jul 21, 2013 7:30 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
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Tulip breaking virus is a possibility. But I think some of these cut flower varieties, not bred for the garden, can also react oddly during heat waves and drought. Maybe did it, keep in somewhere separated and look at it next year and compare. Just a thought.
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Jul 21, 2013 8:05 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Yah, Jo Ann--I know weather can cause a false positive for tulip breaking as Tracey says. It's kinda unusual for two plants, each of different cultivars, to come down with it the same year like that. Usually only one plant will get it first and the it moves out from there. Meaning you should have seen something last year on one or the other. If it were me, I would move them to a different spot by themselves this Fall and see what they do next year. My hunch is they will be normal if we have a normal year.
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Jul 21, 2013 9:20 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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I also wonder if it is really virus... maybe.

And that's not the normal floral symptoms that one sees, either. Still a possibility, but doubtful in my opinion.
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Jul 21, 2013 9:33 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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In any case, Jo Ann, if you do move these this fall, you could go ahead and replant something in their spots right away--as long as you're sure you get all the old roots and offsets out. But you knew that already didn't you. Just a reminder to others: the virus is in the bulb and roots only--not the soil.
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Jul 22, 2013 2:30 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Thanks Lorn: I didnt know that.
I have Silk Roads comming this fall.They can be planted there.I liked the really tall structure in that spot of the garden.
Everyone has been great with information.Thanks.
I will check last years pix of Robina to see if the veins appear in those.
I dont really look for diseases so would have just figured it to be an odd blooming year.
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Aug 8, 2013 4:09 PM CST
Name: Zhirair Basmajyan
Vanadzor, ARMENIA
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ge1836 said:Someone pointed it out.
The rest of the stems and leaves are vigorous and normal.
The blooms on Robina have these streaks. Satisfaction had more than a few buds that never opened and just turned brown.
Whats happening?


It is 100% TBV. The best way to recognize viral stripes is to observe the reverse side of the petals. Viral stripes are always two-sided, that is they are reflected on the reverse side of the petal as well. Non-viral stripes are one-sided and often observed on 1 or 2 petals out of 6; besides they are less in quantity.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
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