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Name: Annette
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DadsPeony
Aug 15, 2013 4:58 AM CST
I have heard of boosting a plant's health by giving it a weak dose of asprin, has anyone tried this and if so, how did it work and what is the dosage please?
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abhege
Aug 15, 2013 5:45 AM CST
Hi Annette and Welcome!

I have not heard about aspirin and a plant's overall health. Recently someone posted about spraying with aspirin for rust I think. Maybe someone will help us out here?
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chelle
Aug 15, 2013 6:30 AM CST
Hi, Annette. Welcome to ATP! Welcome!

I've heard that willow bark tea is useful for root stimulation, but I think that the benefits are largely due to the use of recently living plant materials. Shrug!
I wouldn't imagine that processed or synthesized aspirin would help any more than applying some good compost around the plant or feeding with seaweed or fish emulsion. Both of these seem much more likely to have what an ailing plant needs, and probably in a much more readily available form.

Do you have an ailing plant now? If so, is it a recent transplant or is it an established plant?
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Newyorkrita
Aug 15, 2013 3:33 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome Anette.

I haven't heard of this but I would put my faith in a really good quality fertilizer that has nutrients to feed both the plant and the soil. I especially love the Neptunes Harvest Seaweed Fertilizer. Another thing many of us use in the garden is alfalfa pellets. They give the plants a nice boost and are totally organic.
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eclayne
Aug 15, 2013 4:08 PM CST

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Hi Annette,
I've read of this but have no experience with it. A search for systemic acquired resistance (SAR), should bring some results. A foiliar spray of acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin), or other compounds, stimulates a plants natural defense mechanisms to combats microbial and viral attack. This article discusses some tests by gardeners.

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Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 15, 2013 5:13 PM CST
Thanks for all the input! I remembered after reading it that I had found it as a control for rust after all, but that was so long ago that I don't remember the dosage, does someone know? The plants are healthy except for these orange/rust colored stains that seem to weaken that part of the leaf, I think that is rust disease. I am giving them compost as fast as I can get to it (which, at 72, is not as fast as I would like).
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RickCorey
Aug 15, 2013 6:01 PM CST
If the damage or disease is localized to just a few leaves, or tips of leaves, you might trim off the affected areas and throw them away as rubbish.

Don't compost what might be diseased, or leave it on the plant to mature and spread.
Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 15, 2013 6:18 PM CST
The rust appears to affect some daylilies more than others. I do cut off the affected parts as I can but often I can see it way down where the leaf stem starts, hence my desire to spray with something, but nothing that is going to be harmful to myself or the rest of the garden.
Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Aug 15, 2013 6:23 PM CST
Annette, you are in a cold zone up there in Maine. The rust should die off all by itself over the winter.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2013 8:05 AM CST
Hi Annette, and Welcome! to ATP.
Here is a great article on daylily rust. http://www.lilyfarm.com/rust.html
Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 16, 2013 1:10 PM CST
That is an excellent article on rust, thank you! After reading all the options I realize that I really have only two choices, either keep to a regular spaying program as outlined in the article, or live with it. The weather here where we are in Maine has been, for at least the past three years, unusually wet, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that we have fungal diseases. Therefore I am choosing the last option...keep doing what I have been doing, trimming off the affected parts and feeding them lots of compost. Thank you for all your help!!
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Leftwood
Aug 16, 2013 4:01 PM CST
I am surprised that that article did not mention an alternate host for the disease. All rust diseases complete their life cycle on two very different species. Most rusts must have both species in the environment to persist. (Example:Cedar Apple rust must have both apples (Malus spp.) and "Cedars" (Juniperus spp.) to persist.) However some, like Daylily rust, can continue life by infecting only daylilies.

This is important because different kinds of propagules are produced, depending on which host species propagates them. This can also means different cold hardiness. In the case of daylilies, the type that daylilies produce is not very cold hardy. But the type that the alternate host produces is very cold hardy (at least zone 3). Fortunately, the alternate hosts for Daylily rust are Patrinia species, and I don't think any are native here in North America. However, all of us grow plants native to other parts of the world, and although Patrinia are virtually unknown here, there will always be some who might grow it. In fact, until this spring I was one of them! I grew it as an edible crop, but when I discovered it was the alternate host of Daylily rust, I killed them all. Thankfully, they were never infected, anyway.
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2013 4:29 PM CST
Wow Rick, that is interesting news.

Annette, glad we could help find a solution for you. I think you chose the wise one for your growing conditions. Keep us posted, and we would love to see photos of your lilies. And any other plants you have. Hurray!
Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 16, 2013 5:48 PM CST
Here are two of the daylilies I hybridized:
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Aug 16, 2013 6:05 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome Annette! Very pretty flowers you have there. Thumbs up
Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 16, 2013 6:45 PM CST
Thank you, it is so much fun to do Smiling
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2013 6:54 PM CST
Very pretty. Lovey dubby
Name: Annette
Maine (Zone 4b)
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DadsPeony
Aug 17, 2013 4:35 AM CST
I did look up Patrinia, the name sounded familiar, but I have never grown it. I am thinking that maybe my plants don't have rust but some other fungal disease that looks like it because it either does not die away during the winter or it recurs every year. We do live in the middle of the woods.
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woofie
Aug 31, 2013 3:18 PM CST
Ah, I like the colors on that first daylily! Very nice! Thumbs up
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Bonehead
Aug 31, 2013 3:25 PM CST
Annette, I squirreled away the following tidbit, not sure where I read it: 2 aspirin dissolved in 1 QT water, as a spray for mildew/mold/black spot problems, reference was to roses. I have not tried it, and don't know if it would work on other plants, just passing on random information.

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