Heirlooms forum: Can't find heirloom 'Schochler' Watermelon seeds

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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
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RickCorey
Aug 22, 2013 3:38 PM CST
We've been trying to find Schochler Watermelon seeds, over in the Ask A Question forum. Stacy Schochler's father-in-law's cousin is a grandson of the breeder who developed it, and she just joined ATP.

Can anyone suggest more places for us to look and ask?

Here are the places where we've left email questions so far:

Baker Creek - - ?
SandHill - - - - - ?
SeedMan - - - - no
SSE - - - - - - - - no
Victory Seeds - ?
LocalHarvest - - ?
Sustainable Seed Company- - - - - - - ?
Texas Watermelon Association - - - - ?
Southern Exposure Seed Exchange - ?

Texas Watermelon Association - - ?

Plant Databases:
ATP BB Code: Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus 'Schochler')
Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus 'Schochler')
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/95623/
http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cucurbit/wehner/vegcult/watermelon...


NO EMAIL, not yet contacted:
http://www.thelostseed.com.au/contact-us/ (Australia, so I'd rather not phone them)
FedCo (I may eventually mail them a letter via USPS)


ATP Ask a Question forum: Schochler Watermelon
The thread "Schochler Watermelon" in Vegetables and Fruit forum
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Sep 4, 2013 4:05 PM CST
After many replies of "we don't have this seed and don't know where you can find it",
we think we can get some limited number of seeds of the family heirloom 'Schochler' Watermelon from the Vavilov Institute of Plant Industry in Saint Petersberg, Russia.

Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus 'Schochler')

Stacy Schochler and a bunch of other ATP members would like to conserve the variety.

So we'd like to propagate the Vavilov sample cleanly and then offer some seeds to the USDA ARS seed bank in Griffin Georgia, and the North Carolina State University watermelon breeding program. And SSE, Baker Creek, Victory Seeds, the Sustainable Seed Company, Sand Hill Preservation Center and Southern Exposure Seed Exchange.

My problem is that my summer nights are much too cold to expect watermelons to do well. So I'm asking for some volunteers who would each grow 1-2 hills of 'Schochler' Watermelons and share seeds back with Stacy Schochler and the seed banks and vendors who've expressed an interest in conserving the strain. Stacy will also try to grow them out, but it would her first year growing watermelons.

Any volunteers?

Watermelons are insect-pollinated, so in theory an isolation distance of 1/4 mile to as much as 1/2 mile would be desirable for multiplying this first generation out of the Vavilov seed vaults, on its way back to breeders and the USDA seed vaults.

If we have more volunteers than seeds from Dr. Irina Gashkova, the seeds would go first to someone who has grown watermelons before and thinks their near neighbors are probably not growing something that would cross over. Or to anyone who knows how to hand-pollinate!

I'm hoping to go back to Irina in Saint Petersberg and say "we have volunteers to propagate it at this many sites, can you spare 10, 20 or more seeds for each site?"

We would pool multiplied seeds from as many volunteers and as many plants as possible before offering them forward to breeders and preservationists.

From what I read, inbreeding depression is not a problem with this kind of inbred strain, so small numbers of plants at each site, or even hand-pollinating a few blooms, would be OK.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Aug 3, 2016 4:41 PM CST
The Vavilov Institute never came through, but Baker Creek offered them one year. Not this year, though. At least, not online.

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