Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Combining Sempervivum with annuals

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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Aug 25, 2013 4:23 AM CST
Has anyone used Semps in combination with coleus or caladiums?
Any other annuals?
I have a large rectangle planter on the deck and wanted to plant part with semps.and add annuals to fill out the combination.
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Cinta
Aug 28, 2013 12:10 AM CST
I had this pot and I put a coleus in the mix one summer.

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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Aug 28, 2013 2:50 AM CST
I like it.
Its something to think about all winter.The semps here will be new and just not as grown in as I would like.I needed a filler.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Aug 28, 2013 8:24 PM CST
It looks nice, but I think coleus is faster growing than semps..it might easily overtake and cover up the semp instead. Blinking
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Aug 29, 2013 2:40 AM CST
tarev: I thought about that.I think I will look at the short mounding ones.The rectangle planter is long and narrow 28X12 I thought semps in one end and coleus at the other.
Aurora Black cherry is low and didnt get huge.

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There are other low coleus but the leaf shapes dont look great with spiky semps.
Its a plan in progress.
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Cinta
Aug 29, 2013 8:01 AM CST
It worked the pic I posted I had done several years ago. It was one of those lay on its side in the garden, A pot made to look like a pot that fell over. I no longer have it because someone kept sitting it up because they thought the pot had fell over. Even though the side was flat vs a flat bottom. The dumb lawn service kept sitting it up and it fell off the rock wall and broke.

The reason it worked is....

- Soil is leaner than what I would use for Semp. The coleus is not permanent so I used the preferred soil for Semps which slowed the growth of the Coleus.

- The lighting is different there was a little more sun than the coleus would normally receive.

- Type of coleus I used a spiller coleus.
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Aug 29, 2013 9:12 AM CST
Thats good information,thanks
Name: tarev
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tarev
Aug 29, 2013 9:59 AM CST
I guess it can work, a lot of trimming to keep the coleus growth in check. I have just started to grow coleus this year, and the small seedlings are giants right now, that's why I am not sure about mixing it with semps. Maybe for a very temporary arrangement it can work. The other thing is the soil and watering needs. I find my coleus thirstier than the semps, so you might risk rotting the semp or if too less water, the coleus will suffer. But the again, my location demands that amount of watering for my coleus to survive the heat and just fine and dandy for my semps. So if your area is cooler, then it can somehow check the growth of the plants and will thrive just right together in that set-up.

It will be fun to see how that goes with your plants Joanne. Have never done that type of combination so I will watch how yours will go. Smiling

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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Aug 29, 2013 10:02 AM CST
I have never done it either and am reconsidering based on your water needs tip.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Aug 29, 2013 10:05 AM CST
Maybe try and get feedback too with other semp growers on the sempervivum forum, and see what they think.
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Cinta
Aug 29, 2013 12:33 PM CST
Trust me it works. You do not have anything to lose. Break a piece of your small trailing coleus and stick it in a pot of semps.

Do what the semps need. They are the focus because they are the permanent plant. If the coleus grows slow because of the lean soil and less water you will not have any problems. If the coleus loves the conditions and grows to fast you can clip the coleus or remove it from the pot. It is a annual. No loss.

You do not make perfect conditions for the coleus it is there as decor. Use it as decor that you use in your house move it if it does not work in the corner you place it but leave the couch.
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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ge1836
Aug 29, 2013 1:02 PM CST
Cinta: Thanks for the trailers tip.They give me more color options. Its easier to controle the coleus than the semps.
This planter is about 10 inches deep.

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