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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Oct 31, 2013 4:03 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

In case any of you were wondering what all the activity was about today, with strange behavior occurring around the icons and lightboxes and things, let me explain. This week is "Optimization Week" for me and I've been doing a lot of background changes to the site that are meant to make it much faster. None of the work really has a visible effect, but it does have a huge effect in terms of performance.

For example, all the icons you see here and there used to be individual files, and in order to load a page on ATP your browser had to download each and every icon and graphic individually.

On some pages, like threads, the microbadges that show up in our profiles can number into the dozens or even over a hundred different microbadges. Each badge forced a different connection to the server and that adds up to slow down your experience at ATP.

So, today I (mostly) finished my work of converting the microbadges and other icons into a single image. Your browser downloads the image once and then stores it in your cache, and then forever after it can display all the microbadges without ever having to download them again. The technique is called CSS spriting and it should have a huge impact on your performance. Even if you don't directly notice it, having a page load go from 1 second to 0.5 seconds is a gigantic improvement.

So, all the chaos from earlier today was worth the effort. Smiling
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Oct 31, 2013 4:38 PM CST
Thumbs up
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 31, 2013 4:38 PM CST
I think you should get applause not only for making faster today, but even more so for it being feature-rich AND fast ALREADY.

Notice how there are no "agonized" groans about speeding it up "at last" or 'can't you make it even faster?"

I bet a lot of people aren't posting their private reactions, which were:
"I thought it was ALREADY fast!"

Edited to add: I forgot to say "Thank you". Thank you!

[Last edited by RickCorey - Oct 31, 2013 4:53 PM (+)]
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Oct 31, 2013 4:42 PM CST
RickCorey said:I bet a lot of people aren't posting their private reactions, which were:"I thought it was ALREADY fast!"
ATP has always seemed very fast on my laptop. Smiling but Dave, I do thank you for all of your hard work in making sure things run so smoothly and at an optimum level for us!
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Coatesville IN (Zone 5b)
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Claudia
Oct 31, 2013 5:21 PM CST
I knew it couldn't just be my computer running faster!! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Thanks Dave! I tip my hat to you.
Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them. ~Eeyore
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
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zuzu
Oct 31, 2013 6:00 PM CST

Plants Admin

Is this the reason that the page keeps loading and loading and loading? I can't refresh a page until I click on the "x" ("Stop loading this page") first.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Oct 31, 2013 6:41 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

That's a new one and it shouldn't be happening. I'm not sure what's up with that. Is there anything on your status bar indicating that it's downloading something?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Oct 31, 2013 6:53 PM CST

Plants Admin

Oh, yes. I didn't notice. It's perennially "transferring data from google-analytics," so it has nothing to do with the site and must be happening everywhere I go.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Oct 31, 2013 7:10 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

That's the logging feature that we use to record how many visitors we get each day. I've seen it get hung up before but it shouldn't affect the actual use of the site. If it does, please do let me know!
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
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zuzu
Oct 31, 2013 7:19 PM CST

Plants Admin

It's not affecting anything but the little green circle that keeps going round and round. I have the same thing happening with Cubits. It doesn't bother me. I just wondered about the cause.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Oct 31, 2013 7:25 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

zuzu said:It's not affecting anything but the little green circle that keeps going round and round. I have the same thing happening with Cubits. It doesn't bother me. I just wondered about the cause.


If it becomes a problem, let me know. Thumbs up
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 31, 2013 7:38 PM CST
>> "transferring data from google-analytics,"

A week or four ago, I kept hanging on that for 10-20 seconds at a time. perhaps 6 times per day, for several days. It went away, I have not seen it since.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Oct 31, 2013 7:43 PM CST

Plants Admin

Okay, Dave. I'll let you know if it causes any problems.

Rick, it isn't hanging. The page loads immediately, but the green circle keeps rotating forever. It does it on every page except when I'm previewing a post.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 31, 2013 7:51 PM CST
Ahh. For me, it prevented any click anywhere in the site from having an effect. I forget whether I could click outside ATP and do other things.

But as I say, "it went away".

Since it lets Dave keep track of things here, no problem. When I thought it was Google taking 100% of my CPU cycles to log my browsing history, I was less happy.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Oct 31, 2013 8:00 PM CST

Plants Admin

I made it go away. My Avira software was blocking all the tracking companies, so I created exceptions for ATP and Cubits and the sites now work the way they always did.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 31, 2013 8:13 PM CST
!

I wondered if our IT department was somehow to blame!

Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Oct 31, 2013 8:20 PM CST
I figured when things were happening that our magician Dave was hard at work tweaking things. He's always making things better & better for us. Hurray!

Thank you Dave. I tip my hat to you.

And it's so cool that you tell us what has been happening. I've not been on any sites where that happens.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Tara
NE, Florida (Zone 9a)
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terrafirma
Oct 31, 2013 8:52 PM CST
nodding I SO agree!!!! I agree I agree I agree I tip my hat to you.
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
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AnnaZ
Oct 31, 2013 9:21 PM CST
Is there any particular reason that the text is now clear at the bottom of the square with our avatar and any badges? Looks like there is no text, just an empty "text box" until you scroll way down. Very strange. Hard to follow, too.
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I sent a postcard to Randy! Region: United States of America
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vic
Nov 1, 2013 4:05 AM CST
Thank you so much Dave for all the cool updates and for all the work you do to make ATP bigger, better, and faster! Hurray! Thumbs up

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