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Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Nov 26, 2013 4:40 PM CST
Does anyone else freeze pot liquor to use as a soup base? I grew up in Pa. I don't remember ever having collards until I moved to Fl. or any other greens except spinach. The first time I cooked collards I was certain the bunch would feed an army for a year Green Grin! Was amazed at how they cooked down...gave 2/3 of the bunch away and was lucky to have enough for dinner Hilarious! Anyway this here Yankee now cooks a mean pot of collards. I have for dinner twice and freeze the rest and always freeze the pot liquor for use as a soup base. YUM...usually add a container of collards to the pot of soup as well.
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abhege
Nov 26, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Fairly new to the south and I haven't gotten into collards yet. Not sure I ever will, just not much of a "greens" person. But I can imagine it would enhance soup.
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Nov 26, 2013 4:50 PM CST
I wasn't a greens person either, but now I love collards...at least mine Whistling
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Nov 27, 2013 3:22 AM CST
Yes, I use pot liquor that way and also some of the liquid left after I boil a chicken carcass and strain it down. I love greens of any kind and cook them in a little of the liquid or make soup stock with it and add greens and whatever other veggies and beans I have on hand. Maybe a little chicken or sausage for flavor. I call it "Refrigerator Soup". Delicious, if I do say so myself. My favorite greens in soup are turnip greens, collards, and mustard greens. I do like spinach but it's a little too "wimpy". I add it to the soup more toward the end, but if I have leftovers and have to reheat the soup, it sort of just melts away. But still good.
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Name: Ginger
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gingin
Nov 27, 2013 10:09 AM CST
I don't much like spinach unless I'm doing a raw spinach salad....that and a roll is dinner Green Grin!
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Nov 27, 2013 10:13 AM CST
I don't usually eat much salad in the late fall and winter. That's when I switch over to my soups, stews, stewps, and chilis menu. :)
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Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Nov 27, 2013 10:22 AM CST
Bill always made the chili and stew here....guess I need to try my hand at them as I really like both.
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
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RickCorey
Nov 27, 2013 6:37 PM CST
Leaf broccoli produces strongly-flavored greens, and soup would be a good application for them. And they are very cold-hardy.

Mine over-wintered in Zone 8, often covered with ice and snow, them flowered next spring. I saved a lot of seeds, will share for postage. Or join the Piggy Swap.

Broccoli (Brassica oleracea 'Spigariello')
Spigariello Liscia = Broccolo Spigariello = Brassica oleracea var. 'Spigariello'
Very cold-hardy. Full Sun Annual (I got seeds the second year)
Italian Heirloom O.P. 45-65 days
12" - 24" tall
16"- 24" spacing
deep blue-green leaves & tops: sweet, strong broccoli / kale flavor
Strip center rib off old leaves. Cooked leaves freeze well
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Nov 28, 2013 3:34 AM CST
I'm interested in cold-hardy veggies and must try that broccoli. Sending you a treemail, Rick.
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
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RickCorey
Nov 29, 2013 3:49 PM CST
Sure thing. If you like "cold hardy", also consider Tatsoi and 'Tyfon'.

'Tyfon' = Holland Greens OP 20-40 days first cutting, 60 DTM
Cut-&-come-again every 35 day. Very productive.
Cross between stubble turnips & Chinese cabbage.
Forage, cover crop, salad, greens.
Very hardy: to 10 F,
Tender when young, very mild flavor. No "mustard" flavor.

Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Nov 29, 2013 4:10 PM CST
I have Tatsoi but not familiar with Tyfon yet. Looks like it must be a type of mustard greens. I really like them. But, then, I'm a "greens" fanatic. :)

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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Nov 29, 2013 4:26 PM CST
Holland Greens (Brassica rapa 'Tyfon')

Yup, "mustard greens without the mustard". One of the breeding goals was "forage", and the total lack of mustard flavor means it can be fed to cows without making their milk taste weird.

I just found the seeds recently and haven't grown them out yet. Supposedly, they taste so mild that they take on the flavor of whatever you cook them with. They are also supposed to be good for 2-3 cuttings, but they are supposed to get hairy and tough when old. I don't know yet if the regrowth after a cutting is tough and hairy!

Someone else said "reasonably palatable ... by itself", but came out "tasting great" when cooked with other things, and "They make a good substitute for spinach"

http://blueboathome.com/blogs/ben/praise_tyfon_king_greens

These links are from the above article:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-holland-greens.htm
http://www.recipetips.com/glossary-term/t--37851/holland-gre...

http://www.nicholsgardennursery.com/store/product-info.php?p...
https://www.superseeds.com/products.php?search=tyfon

And they are supposed to grow so rapidly that "one row would feed the whole Red Army".

Maybe that would be true with the downsized Red Army, and a very, very long row!



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Name: Rob Duval
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Dec 3, 2013 5:49 PM CST

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Pot liquor...


guess I'd never heard the term before....I thought this was going to be a very different topic.... Whistling
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Dec 3, 2013 10:03 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I grew up in Pa. and never heard the term either until I moved to Fl.....however a nice "pot" of liquor while cooking with pot liquor does sound like a workable idea...a slug for me and a splash for the pot Whistling Whistling
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Name: Arlene
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abhege
Dec 4, 2013 7:09 AM CST
Bad choice of words there Rolling on the floor laughing SLUG Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Dec 4, 2013 11:05 AM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing All righty then...a GULP for me Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Arlene
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abhege
Dec 4, 2013 12:07 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing much better!
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Frillylily
Dec 29, 2013 2:03 PM CST
Someone gave me a bunch of kale recently from their greenhouse. I chopped it up and fried it with some bacon, garlic and onion, black pepper. Then I stirred it into a can of mushroom soup and some cooked pasta. Topped with mozzarella and baked it on 375 until the cheese was starting to brown. YUMMY!
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Jan 3, 2014 12:13 AM CST
Pot Liquour?

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/23/us/pot-liquor-or-potlikker...

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Name: Franklin Troiso
Rutland, MA (Zone 5b)
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herbie43
Jan 8, 2014 6:30 PM CST
I have tried and enjoyed mustard, turnip, and even dandelion greens and I liked them all. At first I just added them to my vegetable soup but once in a while I will stir fry a bunch. I love spinach but the best way I enjoy it is when deb makes her spinach and strawberry salad with her special dressing. We have that mostly come warmer weather.

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