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Jun 21, 2018 9:23 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Lovely chimeras. I still vote for weather. It would be really high odds against your iris and your friend's same iris both getting the same virus at the same time after being grown in separate locations for many years.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jun 21, 2018 11:03 AM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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I know the difference between a chimera and a sport, but is there any way of telling just by looking at a plant whether you are seeing a chimera or a sport?
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Jun 21, 2018 2:06 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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The only sports I have ever had were little offshoots on the stem close to a normal bloom, so I can't say I have ever seen a fully realized sport. Isn't Joseph's Coat a sport off of another cultivar?
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jun 21, 2018 3:39 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Jun 21, 2018 4:29 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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I have quite a few plants that were originally sports propagated for commercial sale. I have a variegated Virginia creeper that originally started as sport and was then hybridized by some enterprising plantsperson. But if I happened to be walking in the woods, I wouldn't know if I was looking at a chimera, a sport, a plant with a virus, or a plant that was having a bad hair day. So I wonder how professionals identify them.
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Jun 22, 2018 6:59 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My take on it is, if a "stranger" shows up in your clump of iris.....we'll say, it has white standards, while the clump is of an "all purple variety......and, after close inspection, you find it wasn't from a "dropped seed", but actually from a "rhizome connected to" the original......and, after removal, and replanting, it continues to have white standards (which would show that it ISN'T a Chimera caused by weather or chemical contact), it would be a "sport"
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Jun 22, 2018 8:30 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
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Thanks Arlyn . I thought Joseph's Coat was a sport. Did NOT know Sherwin Wright is also a sport from the same iris! Honorabile must have had a lot of unstable genes.

So basically a sport is an increase that displays features that are not the same as the mother. With a sport all blooms on the stalk would be the same.
While, Chimera are random blooms on a stalk with normal blooms as well. Caused by stressors (weather, chemical, what have you). You would not find an entire increase blooming as chimera. Do I have that right?
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jun 22, 2018 10:51 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Yes, at least as far as I understand it.

Honorabile has lots of "sports"
Joseph's Coat Katkamier
Sherwin-Wright
Kalideoscope
Brown's Mutant
Sport Coat (a fairly new one)
and , maybe , another one...I can't remember, for sure Confused *Blush* .
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Jun 22, 2018 5:21 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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Thanks for that succinct explanation Arlyn. I am wiser than I was a few hours ago. Thumbs up
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Jun 22, 2018 6:16 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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bramedog said:I had an iris in one of my beds this past season that had stripes on it like a broken pattern on all of its blooms. Someone told me that it was probably a virus in the soil that was causing it. Never got a return reply of what it may be or if it is something I should be concerned about. The plants and rhizomes looked healthy for rest of the year. Any thoughts?
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To me, this white iris with red beards looks like the cultivar, "Nordica," an award of merit winner in 1998. See Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Nordica')

I suspect this is a sport on just one of the rhizomes, and that when that rhizome dies or is cut out, you'll be rid of that color variation. If the other rhizomes are blooming normally, I'd probably cut out the sported one. It's a very pretty iris, worth keeping. I see no sign of disease.
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Jun 22, 2018 7:51 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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If the sport grows well, and is strong with good features, wouldn't it be worth trying to save it?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Jul 10, 2018 9:22 PM CST
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Name: Ken
Traverse City, Michigan (Zone 5a)
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It ended up being a chimera.Never did it again. We had some cold weather when the buds were forming that year. The iris was growing at this house when we bought it in 1991. I suspect by the bloom form, this cultivar goes back many years before we bought the house. Smiling
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