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Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
Apr 2, 2014 4:59 PM CST
I had a new (to me) visitor to my open feeder today - a Eurasian Collared Dove. I posted a pic in the Bird forum to be sure of my ID and am told that this is a nuisance non-native bird, much like the starling. Has anyone else had any experience with this newcomer? @Mcash70, you were right - this morning there was one, now this afternoon there are two. I have so far been throwing rocks at them to discourage them from the feeder, but if they are actually in the area and colonizing, my guess is my efforts will be rather futile. Trying to get an idea of how much of a nuisance they might be in the Pacific NW. Here's the pic I posted to get the ID:
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Apr 2, 2014 10:13 PM CST
Hi Deb,
I have feeders here but never any of the doves. I will keep my eye out for one.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 3, 2014 11:44 AM CST
They have a very definitive sound, woo-hoooo-hoo, much different than our native mourning doves (I love listening to those guys). I plan to let my open feeder sit empty for a while and see if they go somewhere else, I think they are too big for my tube feeder and suet cage.
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Name: Jewell
South Puget Sound (Zone 7a)
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Jewell
Apr 7, 2014 10:59 PM CST
We have had them move into the area in the last two years also. I believe they are escaped pets. I remember hearing them in Denver at my grandmother's home where my mom grew up. Mom said originally people raised them for food during WWII, and some escaped. I figure they are like pigeons, here to stay. Twenty years ago we didn't have gray squirrels or possums in Olympia either. Glare
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Apr 7, 2014 11:14 PM CST
That's interesting. Have not seen any at my feeders.
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
Apr 18, 2014 7:09 PM CST
Interesting that you mentioned this...the very day before the DH was commenting on these doves out in the front that were different from the ones we're used to.
I could be wrong...
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
May 17, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Now I can see why they would be called "Nuisance Doves"...at least by me. They don't have the peaceful coo-ing of the mourning doves, instead having that repetitive, hyper, irritating coo-ing.....
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
Name: Tom
Nooksack, WA (Zone 8a)
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TomPNW
Jun 7, 2014 10:35 AM CST
Deb can you make that sound again? Rolling on the floor laughing Then make the sound of the "morning dove" so I can compare. Is the pitch different or what? We had a dove show up about 3 weeks ago and I thought it was a "turtle dove" that I would hear as a youth in Ohio but this one is quite repetitive as you mentioned Sherry, I thought it might be calling for a mate in desperation.
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
Jun 28, 2014 3:21 PM CST
I'd rather forgotten about these birds, and thankfully am not (so far) plagued with them. Still seeing/hearing them now and again, but they have not moved in like the starlings (yet). In response to Tom, here's my best stab at the difference between the two (use your most creative imagination, ha ha)

Mourning dove: woo AH woo ... hoo hoo (usually only 1-2 times)
Collared dove: woo HOOO hoo ... woo HOOO hoo (repeated several times)

Probably not as sanctioned by Audubon, but that's what I hear.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 13, 2015 6:47 PM CST
A year later...I now hear more of the collared doves than the mourning doves. Dang invasives!
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
Jul 13, 2015 7:23 PM CST
Yes, we have them. They don't bother me other than the fact that their "What Plant Is This? What Plant is This? What Plant is This?" call is so repetitive that it starts to get on my nerves. Kelli said that in Texas she thinks they're saying "Will Work for Food. Will Work for Food. Will Work for Food."...lol..
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
Name: Lauri
North Central Washington (Zone 5b)
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lauribob
Jul 14, 2015 8:57 AM CST
Our local Audubon has just let us know that they are showing up over here on the east side of the Cascades as well. I have not seen any yet and really hope they don't drive the native mourning doves away.

We had an odd one a couple years ago - a pure white dove in our tree out in front in the middle of winter. After much researching in various bird books and internet, we figured out that it was a dove native to the tropics that had most likely been released at a wedding the previous summer. Poor thing undoubtedly froze to death, which doesn't really seem like a very 'joyous' thing to do. It's probably not a good idea to introduce foreign critters into the local ecosystem anyway, just for a little "Oh Wow" moment, but weddings are so over the top anymore.
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Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
Aug 19, 2016 1:39 PM CST
I have not heard a mourning dove this year. At all. I am hearing these dang invasive newbie doves all the time, though. Could they have driven off the natives so quickly? Or did something happen to the mourning doves? Anyone else notice them missing?
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Name: Lauri
North Central Washington (Zone 5b)
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lauribob
Aug 23, 2016 3:35 PM CST
We still have lots of mourning doves and I have not seen or heard any of the usurpers yet.
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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Brinybay
Aug 26, 2016 11:08 AM CST
I didn't know we had any native doves in this neck of the woods. I hear something, usually in the evening, that I thought were feral pigeons, but now I'm not sure. The feral pigeon sounds I found didn't quite sound like what I hear.

Eurasian Collared Dove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJNIEtS9Gcs

Mourning Dove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0LKPT1u1E8
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