No stakes for those two, very strong, full sun, top out at over 6 ft. I got both from Buggy Crazy (Lisa Hunt) probably 7 0r 8 years ago. Both are OT Lilies. Scheherzade is a historic and famous lily, usually available; Beauty Rose was bred from Black Beauty, current availability unknown. Speaking of which, Black Beauty (also an OT) is also worthy of consideration as it shares similar characteristics, tough, tall, beautiful, with a commanding presence and is also usually available.