Plant Database forum: Does Lonicera 'Belgica' have unusual foliage

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 23, 2014 9:44 AM CST
Is it best to post a proposed correction in this forum (open for discussion), or to submit a proposed edit to the plant (only seen by the admin)? I've been seeing a lot of 'unusual foliage color' on various plants which are confusing to me. For example, Lonicera 'Belgica' has this box checked. To me, this plant just has regular green leaves with no variegation. I suppose they have a bit of a reddish tinge when they first emerge, but nothing to write home about (in my garden anyway). Perhaps it performs differently in other parts of the country, in which case a discussion first might be the way to go? I don't want to make extra work for anyone, but also don't want to come off as the 'leaf police.'
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zuzu
Apr 23, 2014 11:39 AM CST

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I've noticed this too in the entries for plants in my garden with foliage color that's not the slightest bit "unusual," and I've also wondered about zonal differences. I think it's best to have these issues open to discussion.
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Bonehead
Apr 23, 2014 11:50 AM CST
I agree with that approach, seems the most reasonable. Can you rename this threat to "Does Lonicera 'Belgica' have unusual foliage" or something similar so we can see if perhaps this plant does something special in other zones? Or should I just start a new thread?
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eclayne
Apr 23, 2014 11:51 AM CST

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I agree regarding the foliage.
Thanks for bringing this up Deb, such beautiful flowers.
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Apr 23, 2014 12:28 PM CST

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I renamed the thread for you. Smiling
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Bonehead
Apr 28, 2014 10:33 AM CST
I used the new feature to search for plants in My List that include 'unusual foliage color' - and the majority of hits have just plain-jane green leaves - mints, lily of the valley, darmera, skullcap, the list goes on. Some have really large leaves or an interesting shape to them, but unless they do something different in another zone, they're all just green. Maybe the field should be changed to 'unusual foliage' which appears to be how it is currently being used, with perhaps a line to clarify what the unusual characteristic might be (variegated, feathery, huge, etc.).

Edited to add: no one has commented on whether Lonicera has unusual foliage. Mine is just now emerging and it does have a bit of a reddish tinge to the new leaves, which I suppose could be termed unusual.


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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 10, 2014 4:57 PM CST

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The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced that this doesn't merit discussion in most cases, Deb. Go ahead and propose data edits when you see this checkbox being used inappropriately.

There's a reason that this happened. The checkbox originally was called "Good growing season color" or something like that. It was so vague that people tended to check the box for anything that wasn't a bare stick during the growing season. A discussion of this undiscriminating approach led to the rewording of the checkbox description to say "Unusual foliage color." A lot of the ones you run into now are simply left over from the time when the box had a different name, and they don't necessarily signify unusual foliage color. It's a good idea to weed them out.
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midnight21
May 12, 2014 3:39 AM CST
I think your right Deb, as I used unusual foliage for the details on one of my fuchsias, because it has lime green leaves.
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zuzu
May 12, 2014 11:44 AM CST

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Lime green does qualify as unusual foliage, in my opinion, John. I think Deb had questions because many plants with standard green foliage are marked as "unusual."

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