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May 5, 2014 12:39 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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I found them growing sometimes in very dark spots in the forest.
At first sight it looks a bit like a Pachystachys, but the actual flowers don't match.
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May 5, 2014 7:52 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Acanthaceae seems to be the right family, I found Aphelandra maculata which comes close but not close enough ..

http://plantillustrations.org/...

http://idtools.fieldmuseum.org...

Aphelandra prismatica is closer..

http://www.brazilplants.com/ac...

http://www.brazilplants.com/ac...

http://www.brazilplants.com/ac...

http://plantillustrations.org/...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...

It's in Rio de Janeiro ..

http://reflora.jbrj.gov.br/jab...
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May 5, 2014 12:34 PM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thank you Janet! Thumbs up I do think that Aphelandra prismatica probably is the plant, though I don't remember having seen the whitish spot in the throat of the flower like in the plant on Brazil.com but that seems to be is a cultivar: 'Poço das Antas' so that could explain it.
I don't think it could be anything else..
http://www.brazilplants.com/ac...
It is strange there is so little photo material of the plant on the web..
I had been searching in the Acanthaceae family earlier as it looked so close to the well-known Pachystychas but didn't find anything matching!

Brazilplants.com site might certainly be useful for others, I still have piles to ID! Rolling my eyes.
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May 5, 2014 1:03 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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I should have gone to the Brazil plants for a start Myriam, I did think about it but didn't think he would be selling seeds of such a plant! I think I found another Aphelandra sp. on FloraSBS with similar shaped flowers but it was blue, a search brought me to the plantillustrations site. A long route after looking at other sites! Hilarious!

Mauro does list the location from which he collects seed, the differences suggest the species is variable.
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May 6, 2014 12:43 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
I know Janet, the routes to get to the right plant can be very long and time consuming, but mine was fruitless and frustrating! Rolling my eyes.
We are so lucky to have you here! Smiling I tip my hat to you.

I see that Mauro gives cultivar names on plants found in the wild like mine.
I thought a cultivar name is only given to plants that involves human intervention, like careful breeding and selection?
Should those wild plants not get a variety name instead?
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May 6, 2014 2:34 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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*Blush* Smiling I tip my hat to you.

I don't think the names which Mauro give are cultivar names Myriam, they seem to be only locations to reflect where he got the seed from which, in many cases, also shows species variation due to location. They are still the same species.
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May 6, 2014 1:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
I see Janet, that makes sense!
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